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| 26. Saturday, April 30, 2011 1:14 AM |
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I don't know Exy... I mean, it's great that people see things differently, it makes discussions more interesting ;-) But in this case it seems we DO see it differently - I am neither a fan, nor a hater of this scene but I can't find any humour in it, at least not intended. For me it is good because of what Gordon highlighted a couple of years ago, a few posts back It captures the flow of emotions between the three characters, those looks, the tension... plus it plays well as a contrast to the (nomen omen) damn creepy scene of Maddy's vision. I can't find humour in it, though. Still Exy, thanks a lot for bringing the old topic back, it was sheer pleasure for me to read, which I recommend to everyone else, too, especially those who never had a chance before. BOB playing the drums, lol!
By the way, it is a pity that they did this to James's voice, I am sure it would sound much more convincing if James was singing naturally.
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| 27. Tuesday, May 3, 2011 12:17 PM |
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I'm sorry but to me this is laugh out loud funny. It is so incongrously self-concious even for a knowing television show like Twin Peaks for this not be intended to be humourous.
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| 28. Wednesday, May 4, 2011 12:40 AM |
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I get your point. But here we are coming back to the topic on whether Lynch shows the goodness in his films well or poorly, for real and seriously or for laugh and ironically. Even though there's not much goodness in James singing a lame song, though ;) Still I think it's the same case and I do feel that Lynch tends to show goodness or purity in a way some may consider cheesy (take the characters of Sailor and Lula as a perfect example!). I don't mind it, nor do I think he intends it ironically, but some do, as we saw in the recent Blue Velvet thread.
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| 29. Wednesday, May 4, 2011 1:25 AM |
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That's right, James singing a cheesy, lame song is not a good example of Lynch's mixing of humour and heartfelt emotion, a better example is Sherilyn Fenn's cameo or Bobby Peru's "Say, Fuck Me" scene in Wild At Heart or Betty's audition scene in Mulholland Drive. "Just You and I" is an example of a funny scene being used simultaneously for character development and exposition and as such it's a perfectly fine scene and not a low point in the series, quite the opposite in fact.
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| 30. Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:23 PM |
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Am I the only one who likes this song? lol I thought it worked well to show James's attraction to Maddy... as many others have said, but I think it's a decent song. Lynch told James Marshall to think of James Dean with his character... East of Eden-esque Dean comes to mind the most with me. James Dean's heyday was in the '50s and I think Just You and I would have been more warmly received in the late '50s/early 60's. The guitar work and James falsetto (albeit not great) seem very late '50s/early '60s. Even the guitar James is miming on fits the era... looks like a Gibson hollowbody of somekind... possibly Gretsch. Anyway, I like the song and the love the scene... especially as it leads to the creepy-as-hell Bob vision. Good God, I'm surprised I haven't had nightmares about Bob climbing over that couch.
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| 31. Wednesday, May 11, 2011 5:02 AM |
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Scene is alright but sorry to say, I'm not a fan of the song indeed ;-)
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| 32. Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:07 PM |
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I think it fits in with the out of time aspect of Twin Peaks. Plus it was memorabie.
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| 33. Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:19 PM |
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BOB1's gonna love this one:
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| 34. Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:30 AM |
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The song and the scene are funny. Especially the jealousy drama when Donna runs out of the room. But when I play the cd and "Just You and I" is playing, I must admit I am singing along..
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| 35. Saturday, May 21, 2011 2:16 PM |
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| QUOTE: BOB1's gonna love this one:
| So it was Ben?... Ben crawled over the sofa?... I thought it was Jacques Renault!
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| 36. Saturday, May 21, 2011 6:24 PM |
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gordon, if that's your work, you're genius.
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| 37. Friday, May 27, 2011 11:06 AM |
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I don't dislike this scene, at all. I don't really find it funny, either - but some people react differently. My husband had to cover his face with a couch pillow when he watched it b/c he said it was embarrassing to watch, but I find it to be a scene where goodness and purity are hilighted (James, Donna, and Maddy are spending an evening recording a song - which is good clean fun, as opposed to other things they could get into) AND where James and Maddy's mutual attraction comes out. It also shows another side of Maddy's personality - she clearly is not trying to hide the fact that she has the hots for James - her looks are very direct. This is done right in front of Donna - almost like a challenge, and Donna doesn't like it one bit. The part of this scene that makes me feel embarrassed is when Donna runs from the room - obviously jealous and pissed off b/c she realizes James is attracted to Maddy - and then when James asks her what is wrong, instead of owning up to what she is really upset about, she says something ridiculous like, "Nothing! I'm shaking - you make me..." and then passionately kisses him - for Maddy's benefit, of course. Poor James. I don't hate Donna's character, but there are some scenes where she does get on my nerves. This is one of them.
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| 38. Friday, May 27, 2011 2:03 PM |
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This scene did not age well, to me. I liked it when I was thirteen, and the following scene with the couch crawling scared the crap out of me. Rewatching the song as an adult though, was a little cringey. -cg
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| 39. Friday, May 27, 2011 7:37 PM |
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As I said 2 or 3 years ago in this same thread I love the scene, not much the song... However, there's at least one more moment in the series where this evil song is used that is in my list of most embarrassing scenes, similar to Nadine throwing a guy or Andy thinking about Nicky as the devil... A brief shot without dialogue at Evelyn's house, the entrance to the garage I think, with James facing back to the camera and crumbling to pieces due to his teenage angst and romantic rebel modus operandi... He begins to hit the wall with his shoulder and almost falls to the ground in desperation... Meanwhile we can hear some notes of "Just You and I"...
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| 40. Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:46 AM |
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Yes! Yes! Just watched it. But come on, it's much better than the corkscrew guy or little devil! It's almost touching!
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| 41. Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:27 AM |
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Come on Bob! I know you like the Evelyn subplot, but there are limits! That shot is god-awful! Think about it, boy loses blonde secret girlfriend, boy was in fact in love of brunette friend of blonde girlfriend, boy meets girlfriend's brunette cousin who happens to look just like her and as he begins to feel something for her he loses her too... Instead of staying with brunette friend (wasn't she the one he loved?) he escapes... End of story? No way... Boy meets blonde bitch whose husband is a bastard (or so it seems), feels sorry for her, they have sex, but is all a setup, cops are after him... Does he finally leave for good? No, he meets with brunette friend and RETURNS to the blonde bitch asking for an explanation... But she ain't got any, she's a bitch, so she has bitched him... Days later the boy is in San Francisco where many other blonde and brunette ladies are waiting for him... Between all that, he has that moment of desperation, where we're supposed to feel for him... I'm sorry, but myself after the blonde secret girlfriend died I lost track about the boy's feelings and his shenanigans... So I just don't care about his teenage angst... To be honest, he finds somewhat time to write evil songs, deal with his drunk mom, be an active (?) member of the Bookhouse Boys and start silly investigations with the brunettes mentioned above... And so we bid adieu to James Hurley...
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| 42. Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:28 PM |
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QUOTE: boy loses blonde secret girlfriend, boy was in fact in love of brunette friend of blonde girlfriend, boy meets girlfriend's brunette cousin who happens to look just like her and as he begins to feel something for her he loses her too... Instead of staying with brunette friend (wasn't she the one he loved?) he escapes... End of story? No way... Boy meets blonde bitch whose husband is a bastard (or so it seems), feels sorry for her, they have sex, but is all a setup, cops are after him... Does he finally leave for good? No, he meets with brunette friend and RETURNS to the blonde bitch asking for an explanation... But she ain't got any, she's a bitch, so she has bitched him... Days later the boy is in San Francisco where many other blonde and brunette ladies are waiting for him... he finds somewhat time to write evil songs, deal with his drunk mom, be an active (?) member of the Bookhouse Boys and start silly investigations with the brunettes mentioned above... |
Plagiarism! Admit it, Gordon, you lifted that word for word from a 1990 copy of TV Guide, didn't you?
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| 43. Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:44 PM |
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Of course! Josie's description is even better... Girl meets businessman, she becomes her daughter, lover, slave, pupil and many other things... Girl meets another businessman and marries him, but she's already planning to murder him still in cahoots with first businessman... Girl moves to big house ("I have no complains about the house"), the businessman's business becomes her business ("My mill") and her sister-in-law and her become the best of 'friends' ("That's why I'm running it!!")... 2nd businessman 'dies'... Domino dude goes to prison ("Why did fate deal me this hand?")... The business is hers, but she stays... She loves the sheriff or so she says ("I want you more than my life") and 3rd businessman ("Glad-handing dandy") wants her land... Pretty girl dies, she can't give her more english lessons ("Like some haunting melody")... She wants to sell the land to 3rd businessman, burn the goddamn business and kill the sister-in-law who happens to have without her knowledge a life insurance... Life insurance agent is an ambitious man, sister-in-law finds out ("Think... Think..."), she survives the fire with the help of (remember him?) 2nd businessman ("Heaven was Pearl Lakes"), who didn't die... Girl shoots FBI agent ("Wood tick was crawling"), leaves but not forever... 1st businessman's thug is after her ("Be adaptable"), he's a thug but he has sex with her anyway (?)... Oh, he has sex with her because she has returned to town after doing some shopping ("Comes back with half a department store")... Sister-in-law dresses as a japanese ("My family was at Nagasaki") and fools both the girl and the 3rd businessman... Girl leaves with thug, kills him ("ASIAN MAN DEAD"), returns to sheriff... Meanwhile, the shooter's coat was vicuna and FBI agent becomes suspicious of her... 1st and 2nd businessman return ("I'm aliiiiiiive!"), the 1st with South African bitch.... He wants the girl, sister-in-law gives gun to girl, girl meets 1st businessman, "I no go to jail", she kills him, Lodge dudes appear, she dies and is trapped in drawer knob...
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| 44. Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:13 PM |
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| QUOTE: Girl meets businessman, she becomes her daughter, lover, slave, pupil and many other things... Girl meets another businessman and marries him, but she's already planning to murder him still in cahoots with first businessman... Girl moves to big house ("I have no complains about the house"), the businessman's business becomes her business ("My mill") and her sister-in-law and her become the best of 'friends' ("That's why I'm running it!!")... 2nd businessman 'dies'... Domino dude goes to prison ("Why did fate deal me this hand?")... The business is hers, but she stays... She loves the sheriff or so she says ("I want you more than my life") and 3rd businessman ("Glad-handing dandy") wants her land... Pretty girl dies, she can't give her more english lessons ("Like some haunting melody")... She wants to sell the land to 3rd businessman, burn the goddamn business and kill the sister-in-law who happens to have without her knowledge a life insurance... Life insurance agent is an ambitious man, sister-in-law finds out ("Think... Think..."), she survives the fire with the help of (remember him?) 2nd businessman ("Heaven was Pearl Lakes"), who didn't die... Girl shoots FBI agent ("Wood tick was crawling"), leaves but not forever... 1st businessman's thug is after her ("Be adaptable"), he's a thug but he has sex with her anyway (?)... Oh, he has sex with her because she has returned to town after doing some shopping ("Comes back with half a department store")... Sister-in-law dresses as a japanese ("My family was at Nagasaki") and fools both the girl and the 3rd businessman... Girl leaves with thug, kills him ("ASIAN MAN DEAD"), returns to sheriff... Meanwhile, the shooter's coat was vicuna and FBI agent becomes suspicious of her... 1st and 2nd businessman return ("I'm aliiiiiiive!"), the 1st with South African bitch.... He wants the girl, sister-in-law gives gun to girl, girl meets 1st businessman, "I no go to jail", she kills him, Lodge dudes appear, she dies and is trapped in drawer knob...
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This was HILARIOUS. The last sentence is just priceless ("I no go to jail"... ). Man, I wish you could write every character's biography in the same style. I'd love that.
"Albert, where does this attitude of general unpleasantness come from ?"
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| 45. Thursday, June 2, 2011 3:31 PM |
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Lodge dudes!  Dude, where is my garmonbozia?!
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| 46. Thursday, June 2, 2011 8:20 PM |
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Thanks, but I have to admit James and Josie deserve merit as well... Their character arcs are so convoluted... Just thinking about them and writing that made my head hurt... Gwen Moran: She has a baby ("Women beware!"), sister visits her, later she visits sister and talks only about sperm ("Well, I did!"), leaves, THE END.
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