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| 1. Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:26 AM |
| buddhasmokewithme |
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- what is the significance of "if it was 9:45 id think it was after midnight" - the guy throws a little red cup to the ground where it lands perfectly. - the interest in 'who's playing smithy' by (i believe) the woman in green from the beginning.
i just have so many questions, someone care to provide a theory?
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| 2. Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:24 AM |
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well, there's a vast network, right? an ocean of possibilities.. i like dogs. i used to raise rabbits. i've always loved animals. their nature. how they think. i have seen dogs reason their way out of problems, watch them think through the trickiest situations. do you have a couple of bucks i could borrow, i got this damned landlord. hilarious
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| 3. Thursday, March 24, 2011 12:22 PM |
| faceintheleaves |
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| QUOTE: - what is the significance of "if it was 9:45 id think it was after midnight" |
I've always taken that to mean Grace Zabriskie's character is clairvoyant (a la the Log Lady) and/or isn't restricted to linear time (Mrs Tremond). All the worlds in the film seem to be happening at once, which allows Laura Dern to pass from one reality/character to another. Time is important because it helps to navigate the labyrinth of worlds.
Grace Zabriskie summarises everything that's going to happen in the film (boy, girl, evil, shadow, murder). Her appearances set events in motion and bring them to a close, kind of like the man in the planet.
I ran from the noise and the silence, from the traffic on the streets
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| 4. Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:54 PM |
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Gotta say I would LOVE to discuss Inland Empire .. I'm sure there were dozens of pages and I could search them back, and I would... but this film still leaves me puzzled, I've watched it three times, every time I like it some more, and actually I just do like it. But I don't understand it at all. So I'm kind of afraid to read as many opinions as I expect have been posted after the film was released. I'm afraid I'll get even more lost than I already am. Like you said: labirynth of worlds. Moreover, I can't say I remember details, even though I saw it three times, so I might not understand what exactly is being discussed. Easy example right away: I don't remember any 9.45 or red cup, I seem to remember a name Smithy but what it was I do not know 
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| 5. Saturday, March 26, 2011 12:40 PM |
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I think the times don't have particular significance on their own -- well, they may to Lynch -- but their significance comes through their repetition. Neighbor Grace says them at the start, and then other people say them later in unconnected circumstances, and lo, connections are made where there were previously none. Just one of the little details of how he cinematically ties the worlds together. Too dry?

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| 6. Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:25 AM |
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same with the repetition of the 'always liked animals'.. just.. so many questions. i think there's something discoverable by examining the polish people and the things they say, since they were around (i guess) when they tried making the film the first time. also, the 'father' rabbit, is the guy listening in the concrete room? 'helluva walk up here' or something. there is a guy cutting a log with a handsaw in the end creds. like a needle skipping on a record.. nikki grace/sue blue's life skips between potential places she would have been at that time, perhaps
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| 7. Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:52 PM |
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bump
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| 8. Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:03 PM |
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" what is the significance of "if it was 9:45 id think it was after midnight" Well, notice how time gets completely thrown off for Nikki/Sue and she jumps back and forward through Susan's experiences in a sort of non-linear fashion. I always thought this was the old lady foreshadowing the fact that she's going to be lost in a labyrinth of time. "Who's playing Smithy" - In my interpretation of IE, '47', the German movie which never got finished (which 'On High in Blue Tomorrows' is a remake of), was based on a Polish folk tale, which, in turn, is based on a true story, and in becoming Susan, Nikki actually goes through a Silent Hill-esque hell/purgatory living through the original woman's experience, with elements from the 'remake' movie in there too. The sections in Poland are the original story, hence why they reflect what Nikki/Sue is going through. The two confusing characters though are The Phantom and Smithy, one of which being Susan(or the original polish woman the folk tale is based on)'s husband the other her lover, Smithy becomes a hugely important character, and one of the most confusing things about the movie as the actor seems to play three separate characters, one I see to be the original Smithy (in Poland), one I see to be representing the polish woman's husband in Susan's journey and of course Susan's actual husband. He's clearly a huge part of the puzzle and so the fact that people 'in the know' about the gypsy curses and such would need to know who has this role would be understandable... Sorry if this makes no sense, it's late... I'm going to have to watch it again to see the red cup thing. When was this?
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| 9. Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:22 AM |
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I think Grace's character met Nikki/Sue in a Sue's dream. Basically, she's another one of DL's 'local crazy ladies, who aren't so crazy after all', like Louise Bonner in MD. And, like Louise, she was popping into someone's dream world, and giving them a hint as to who they really were. I think what Grace said about 9:45 was her way of mocking Nikki for acting as if she had time. Because in reality, her career was in a slump at that moment, and her time show business was up. She was "late on an unpaid bill". Notice the laugh track in Rabbits is played every time the women discuss the time.
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| 10. Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:51 AM |
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Oh, and I think of these 3... 1.Nikki Grace 2.the character in the film, Sue 3.poverty-stricken street whore, Sue ... that "street whore Sue" is the most "real" character. (Not unlike I see "Betty" being a dream character that Diane desperately escaped into, or Fred escaping into Pete's teenage fantasy world.) That's the real connection she has to Lost Girl. They're both victims of an age-old relationship, where "the Phantom" is always the oppressor.
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| 11. Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:41 AM |
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wish i could add more, but i burned myself out on the dugpa forum discussing IE after it came out. and by now i dont even agree with that much of what i thought back then. to generalize, sure i see an overarching theme of redemption/release/catharsis to the whole film(like the mahayana concept of the bodhisattva, a being who must enlighten others in order to reach enlightenment themselves) and i love all the details and mysteries, and sure maybe lynch had definitive ideas for what they mean to him, but in the little i know about his working habits, i know he will sometimes use images and sounds and mood just to merely suggest an abstract something, or more often than not, to suggest many different things and interpretations. im not trying to say this isnt fun and interesting to compare theories, but maybe kind of a warning(due to my experience on the dugpa board), that comparing every detail and interpretation, either off the top of your head or well thought out and executed, will eventually lead to stalemate as far as discussions on IE go. and i dont want to see that. i love the friendliness of the gazette community, so im saying this because i care about how we all interact here. so that said, i just dont want to see contention over very personal views. i think its hard enough to discern exactly whats happening on the screen due to the digital medium used to shoot the film that going beyond that without some agreed upon foundations will lead to infighting. but if im wrong and am just assuming the worst, id gladly take part in good natured discussion. apologies if this is preemptive and unneeded, im just feeling very ganhdi today ;) ok, thats enough of that.
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