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| 151. Saturday, August 5, 2006 9:48 AM |
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We're getting close to a ceasefire now, they say. The French and the US have come to an agreement within the UN. This should be interesting. How long before Israel leaves? How long will it take for that "force" to occupy Lebanon? All the questions I posed earlier about this mythical force stand. I'd like to be optimistic about their potential to control/disarm/engage Hezbollah, but see no precedent for a mighty group of neutrals making a difference in the region. I'd like to be optimistic, but, uh... I'm really not. Susan
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| 152. Saturday, August 5, 2006 3:38 PM |
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War is menstrual envy.
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| 153. Saturday, August 5, 2006 8:40 PM |
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| QUOTE:War is menstrual envy. |
Starring my dear friend's little girl, Kembra Pfahler, aka The Voluptuous Horror of Karen Black. I taught her how to knit when she was a 10 year old gymnast living with mom and dad in Marin County. She went to art school in New York read some William Burroughs and, uh, well, stuff changed. Just wanted you to know, deep as the sentiment is, it's not a Gavin quote. Susan
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| 154. Sunday, August 6, 2006 1:16 PM |
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While I am saddened to have Ariel Sharon in a coma at a time like this, I appreciate Olmert's comments. I'm sure Sharon would agree. And I agree too. If nothing else, do we think we can agree that no one should be shocked if Israel reacts this strongly with the next provocation against it?
Susan Olmert tells Europe to stop preaching to Israel Aug 6, 6:56 AM (ET)
BERLIN (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told European leaders to stop preaching to him about civilian war casualties in an interview published on Sunday in German newspaper Welt am Sonntag. Olmert also said it would not be possible to completely destroy Hizbollah and insisted he did not underestimate them, saying they had fired just 3,000 of their arsenal of 15,000 rockets so far. "Where do they get the right to preach to Israel?" Olmert said when asked about criticism from European capitals of Israeli military operations that have led to a heavy civilian toll. "European countries attacked Kosovo and killed ten thousand civilians. Ten thousand! And none of these countries had to suffer before that from a single rocket. "I'm not saying it was wrong to intervene in Kosovo. But please: Don't preach to us about the treatment of civilians." Kosovo became a U.N. protectorate in June 1999 after a 78-day NATO bombing campaign forced out Serb security forces accused of atrocities against Albanian civilians during a rebel insurgency by separatist Albanian guerrillas. The New York-based Human Rights Watch estimates about 500 civilians were killed in the NATO bombing in Kosovo. Some 10,000 Albanians died in Serbia's 1998-99 counter-insurgency war and there were allegations of random brutality by both sides. In the Welt am Sonntag interview, Olmert was asked if he had underestimated Hizbollah. "No, we know that they have only fired 3,000 rockets so far and that they have 15,000," he said. "The question is more: If Hizbollah knew what the consequences of their attack would be, would they nevertheless have done it? I don't think so." Olmert said Hizbollah was being defeated but it was not possible to eradicate a grass-roots guerrilla movement. "They are beaten but it is not possible to completely destroy them. Israel has nevertheless been more successful than any other country in the battle against a guerrilla organization."
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| 155. Monday, August 7, 2006 2:08 PM |
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I was just reading how that bastion of vetted Main Stream Professional Media Reuters has been posting faked ( poorly)photoshopped pictures of Isreali bombings of Beirut and supposed Isreali jets firing multiple missiles at Lebanon. In this latter case the "missiles" are not missles at all, but harmless flares. And it is only one flare photoshopped to appears as several-- captioned and labelled by Reuters as "missles"-actually flares ! What fools. The former photo was made to look like all of Beirut is bombed and completely smoked. Actually the smoke is one plume repeated and enlarged to grossly multiply the effect and buildings were added by photoshop to the cityscape for a grander effect. Also I think the same photographer as above (he takes pictures of the same ubiquitous "rescue worker" who is always on the scenes of bombings with his green helmet characteristicly holding up a dead child disgustingly by one leg ) was responsible for many of the still questionable casualty photos from Cana. ( Were some or even all those dead souls salted into the building to increase the effect ? ) Now any number of dead is regrettable, but now that the dust has begun to settle on the Cana story we find that the true number of casualties was 28 not 56 !! But any Hezbollah reports and pictures are taken as the undisputed official record by the big media !! No questions, no skepticism or vetting --just phony Hezbollah propaganda trumpeted by the MSM ! Dupes of Hezbollahs cynical P R . I wonder what other reports and photos are pure bullsh*t. I remember being told on a previous thread that the pictures are what count. They tell the true story was the justification.
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| 156. Monday, August 7, 2006 1:34 AM |
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I followed the 'green helmet' story and Reutergate, and it was pretty amusing in a way, but the triumpf that followed (in the blogosphere) is over the top and misplaced imo. Honest pressreleases are very important, but a fuck up doesnt take away the fact that people are killed out there, or that people are living in fear.
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| 157. Monday, August 7, 2006 11:19 AM |
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And Reutersgate continues, ok it keeps being funny .. now that Reuters seems to be what so many already thought. May I add to that, that Michelle Malkin is one hot .. lady .. imHo (I have a thing for Asian looking..ok this is too off topic)
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| 158. Monday, August 7, 2006 11:22 AM |
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| QUOTE: I was just reading how that bastion of vetted Main Stream Professional Media Reuters has been posting faked ( poorly)photoshopped pictures of Isreali bombings of Beirut and supposed Isreali jets firing multiple missiles at Lebanon. In this latter case the "missiles" are not missles at all, but harmless flares. And it is only one flare photoshopped to appears as several-- captioned and labelled by Reuters as "missles"-actually flares ! What fools. The former photo was made to look like all of Beirut is bombed and completely smoked. Actually the smoke is one plume repeated and enlarged to grossly multiply the effect and buildings were added by photoshop to the cityscape for a grander effect. Also I think the same photographer as above (he takes pictures of the same ubiquitous "rescue worker" who is always on the scenes of bombings with his green helmet characteristicly holding up a dead child disgustingly by one leg ) was responsible for many of the still questionable casualty photos from Cana. ( Were some or even all those dead soles salted into the building to increase the effect ? ) Now any number of dead is regrettable, but now that the dust has begun to settle on the Cana story we find that the true number of casualties was 28 not 56 !! But any Hezbollah reports and pictures are taken as the undisputed official record by the big media !! No questions, no skepticism or vetting --just phony Hezbollah propaganda trumpeted by the MSM ! Dupes of Hezbollahs cynical P R . I wonder what other reports and photos are pure bullsh*t. I remember being told on a previous thread that the pictures are what count. They tell the true story was the justification. |
They say the first casualty of war is the truth. All we really need to do is take a step back and look at the reality. Innocent people are dying in an almighty tug of a proxy war.
For me, the middle east question needs to be addressed with greater urgency than ever and this can only be achieved by all inclusive talks. Hamas and all .
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| 159. Monday, August 7, 2006 11:27 AM |
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Is there evidence that talks worked in the past (in that ongoing conflict) Letsroque ?
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| 160. Monday, August 7, 2006 11:50 AM |
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Not really, but war hasn't exactly worked has it? Quite the opposite. Camp David nearly worked but we all know what happened there. For anybody thats interested here 's a video of George Galloway being interviewed on Sky News UK : http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html Say what you want about the guy, but he is a very accomplished debater!!
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| 161. Monday, August 7, 2006 12:37 PM |
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Yes, he sure can speak when unchallenged, that George Galloway. What a mouthpiece. What a fool. And to him, I repeat my heartfelt wish that I offer to all such useful idiots -- May you (without dragging the rest of us along) inherit the leadership of those you so foolheartedly support and whose agendas you so guilelessly advance. Now, Reuters and "white t-shirt" and his faithful companion, "green helmet." Yes, I too have found the debate incomplete and not completely convincing, Jazz. There is something wrong with the photos and the reportage. We don't know WHO those people are. Why some of the dead children were covered in concrete dust and others were clean from the same ruined building. And why it's so hard to tell the difference between 29 and 56, 59 or 60. It seems clear that some journalists are -- A. being played like fiddles and/or B. willingly going along for the ride. All hope for objectivity is pretty much long gone with the rapid pace of destruction, the lack of accessibility and the information that both Hezbollah and Israel disseminate. The discerning among us must look at it all, weigh the pros and cons and then wait a heartbeat before attempting to draw a final conclusion. (not to be mistaken for that 21st century revival of the popular "Final SOLUTION" being proffered by Ahmadinejad or Nasrallah, to name two)
I begin with doubt when it comes to reporters of certain publications because I've kept track of a number of them over the years. One, Dahr Jamail, is a guy who most likely admires George Galloway. I read his blog. The other day I noticed he had not altered his original story about the number of dead at Qana. Here is our exchange: In the interest of accuracy, don't you think your website should correct this statement... Scenes from Shelter in Qana where on July 30, Israeli air strikes killed over 60 civilians, 37 of whom were children, as they slept in a shelter. But the NYT said on August 3... the bombing of a house in the village of Qana this week that killed 29 people
Tragic as it was, the mystery of the differential between actual dead and your report (which was widespread for a couple days before being corrected) is two-fold. Thought you might want to maintain your credibility by doing an errata.
NYT is wrong. Big surprise since they are so pro-Israel.
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Oh. But dahrjamail is right since he is so.... S
This is the same guy who breathlessly hyped the lies of a certain Jesse Macbeth -- the guy who claimed to have been a war-crime committing former Special Ops American soldier outing his comrades for their horrific criminal actions. Dahr Jamail posted all Macbeth's confessions and tales of American barbarity. Only to discover the guy was a complete fraud with no military background whatsoever. Later, DJ distanced himself from the obvious fakery that he had been too agenda driven to discredit sooner. Sure, truth is hard to come by especially in the midst of war. Especially when one side is a recognized terrorist group with a history of propandistic displaying of dead babies on their websites with no context other than the obligatory sort of blanket blame of the "Zionist Entity." Susan
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| 162. Monday, August 7, 2006 1:55 PM |
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Reuters has pulled 920 photos from its databank. The ones by the photoshop propagandist. Great. So now the evidence is gone. Of course, I'm sure that only those last 2 photos were corrupted . No chance any of the other 918 are bogus. Jeez. And is this busted photographer the only one who has done this ? Someone felt the blog coverage of this stuff was too much, over the top. OK, but unfortunately it takes a " blogswarm" to get the attention of Reuters and the other corrupted MSM. If not for the internet these phony news organizations would be unquestioned. Ah, the professional standards and impartiality of the media.
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| 163. Monday, August 7, 2006 2:54 PM |
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Well, Raymond, I guess if George Bush could fake all those Bin Laden interviews making it appear that he exists and took credit for 9/11 too, I guess the Reuters photog could likewise figure out Photo Shop. Here's a Victor Davis Hanson article that brings it all back home. What's going on? One, two, three, what are we fightin' for? A reminder: August 7, 2006 Not Just Land Middle East Conflict Is About Failed Culture. by Victor Davis Hanson Tribune Media Services Despite the claims of terrorist organizations, Israel's current two-front war is not just about land. After all, Hezbollah and Hamas fired rockets from Lebanon and Gaza well after Israel had withdrawn from both places. Indeed, if sacred Arab ground were the driving force of the Middle East crisis, then surely Syria itself would now be willing to risk a shooting war over the all important Israeli-occupied Golan Heights . Meanwhile, Cairo is still perhaps the nexus of virulent Arab anti-Semitism, even though Israel finished handing over Sinai to Egypt in 1982. The world prayed that after the unilateral departure of Israel from Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005, and the recent elections in Beirut and the West Bank , it was witnessing an incremental evolution toward a lasting peace between rational democratic states. Gradually, Israel was returning to its 1967 borders. In response, gradually, it was hoped, Israel 's Arab neighbors would vote into office reasonable statesmen who would renounce terror and get on with the business of crafting workable economies and governments. But all that optimism presupposed a radical change in the Middle Eastern mentality. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened. So, if the most recent war in Lebanon and Gaza is not about land per se, then whence arises the elemental desire to destroy Israel ? The answer boils down to Islamists feeling their reputation is at stake. Words like "honor" and "pride" are evoked — in the sense that they need to be regained — by every insecure radical in the Islamic world, from al-Qaeda's Osama bin Laden to Hezbollah's Hassan Nasrallah and Iran 's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Fist-shaking crowds, fiery mullahs and terrorists all boast of not giving an inch to infidels and of the restoration of the now sullied honor of the Islamic people. Why their hurt? For about the last half-century, globalization has passed most of the recalcitrant Middle East by — economically, socially and politically. The result is that there are now few inventions and little science emanating from the Islamic world — but a great deal of poverty, tyranny and violence. And rather than make the necessary structural changes that might end cultural impediments to progress and modernity — such as tribalism, patriarchy, gender apartheid, polygamy, autocracy, statism and fundamentalism — too many Middle Easterners have preferred to embrace the reactionary past and the cult of victimization. At one time or another, they have welcomed all the bankrupt ideologies that traditionally blame others for prior self-induced failure: fascism, communism, Baathism, Pan-Arabism and, most recently, Islamic fundamentalism. When there is high unemployment, corruption, zero economic growth, endemic illiteracy and no freedom, mullahs, dictators and jihadists of the Middle East always seem to fault the ancient colonial power — Britain, France or Italy (though rarely Islamic Turkey) — that supposedly set them back over a century ago. Or they try blaming the omnipotent United States whose oilmen developed the riches of the Gulf and whose military has saved Muslims from Kosovo to Kuwait . But above all, for decades leaders like Gamal Nasser, Ayatollah Khomeini, Saddam Hussein, Yasser Arafat and Osama bin Laden have scapegoated tiny Israel . It is the closest Western bogeyman, and its Holocaust survivors transformed a part of desert into a technologically sophisticated Western state. Israel 's astounding success is a constant irritant to many nearby Muslims, representing the infidel's ability to fashion a prosperous Middle Eastern society without oil revenues under democratic auspices. Victimization turns out to be the real creed of the Middle East , uniting disparate Shiites, Sunnis, dictators, theocrats and terrorists. "They did it to us" offers an easy explanation of why Islamic states are now weak and offer little hope to millions of their poor, who, ironically, emigrate to the much pilloried West by the millions. American cash aid, Israeli concessions, windfall petrol profits and, most of all, appeasement of radical Islamists can do nothing to alleviate these perceived grievances. Instead, there will be no peace in the general Middle East until Iranians and Arabs have true constitutional government, free institutions, open markets and the rule of law. Without these reforms, they will continue to fail, seeking easy refuge in the shreds of mythical ancestral honor — and this pathetic neurosis of blaming nearby Israel for the loss of it.
I couldn't agree more!
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| 164. Monday, August 7, 2006 4:32 PM |
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From the David Lynch-promoted permanentpeace.org: "Reduced warfare in Lebanon: During days of high attendance at a group of peace-creating experts in Jerusalem, war deaths in neighboring Lebanon decreased by 76%. Increases in attendance at the peace-creating group also correlated strongly with reduced crime, traffic accidents, and fires, and with improved economic indicators." Read more at: http://www.permanentpeace.org/evidence/war.html
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| 165. Monday, August 7, 2006 4:42 PM |
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Ah the peace frogs again :-) Now Gavin, you must have smiled briefly too when you read this peace thingy right ?
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| 166. Tuesday, August 8, 2006 9:20 AM |
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Har de har har! That was during 1983, I notice. Remember when the Maharishi claimed to have supressed violent crime in Washington DC? The Summer of Peace? But when I wrote the District of Columbia police, saying I was doing an article on the "peace effect," the head of the Archival Department at District Headquarters wrote me back saying there were no discernable differences in crime levels during that time period. If you've listened, you'd have heard Lynch etal frequently proclaiming anywhere from 30-70% drop in violent crime. When I presented this evidence to a TM fan, I was told there were 6 volumes of SCIENTIFIC evidence that I most likely hadn't read. And if I did read it, was I a quantum physicist? How could I think I'd be able to comprehend... SCIENCE? Anyway, looking at the graphs and charts, I can see it is really really.... scientific. And stuff. I have no idea why the Maharishi wouldn't put forth a heroic effort to get his vedic hoppers into the region. They could work they way outward from, oh say, Sadr City. Or better still, if they have the stomach for it, into Beirut.
Who needs the UN when the world has the Maharishi? Come to think of it, they're pretty much birds of a feather. Susan
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| 167. Tuesday, August 8, 2006 10:11 AM |
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How could this NOT work!?!? Doubting Thomases, the lot of you! Susan
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| 168. Tuesday, August 8, 2006 7:35 PM |
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You know, even until recently i tried to avoid "conservative" websites as sources here . But in this upside down situation we are in the MSM are the partisans and the opposition to and proof of their crimes and propaganda can only be found on blogs! The NYT and U S News will not expose themselves. Anyway check out these examples of staged events and outright cover page lies by the NYT and the US News . (And Jazz will like the looks of the blog gal on this one . There is a video of her in shorts bouncing on a trampoline somewhere. ) * http://michellemalkin.com/ see " Fautography alert ". A garbage dump no less-how fitting for the U S News. I think the circus tent of MSM news "coverage" is collapsing around them. It started ( being widely exposed that is ) with Dan Rather almost two years ago and continues to unravel. They say the truth is a casualty of war, but the press is not supposed to be the one who kills it. As if there aren't real pictures of suffering to be found. What is the motive of the press that does these distortions ? * Here she is on the trampoline http://hotair.com/archives/vent/2006/07/20/jump/
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| 169. Wednesday, August 9, 2006 7:09 AM |
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Jeez Louise, today add the AP and Reuters again on a make believe picture story. And Reuters again again on the shocking funeral " yarn" from yesterday-and I believed it. All the MSM do this. Not an isolated lapse of judgement-that defense is yet another lie. Anyway, all these outfits are worthless as news organizations. http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=109521 http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3288406,00.html BBC and a Washington Post journalist also questioned here.
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| 170. Wednesday, August 9, 2006 9:37 AM |
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Michelle on a trampoline was quite funny! Also caught her Cynthia McKinney "requiem for a defeated congresswoman" bit from today's blog which was hilarious! Onward to the objectivity of the revered BBC. Phew, I'm glad Herofix isn't around to read this criticism. It is so clearly the Eez-{{{rah}}}-ay-leez aggression that disturbs the Beeb, that they can scarcely acknowledge the existence of this pesky little group known as Hezbollah, let alone any of the damage they may have inflicted. If you ask me, the BBC is just not an "honest broker" in the Middle Eastern situation.
WARNING: Subsequent images may cause distress.
That's the BBC's warning on their series of photos they call "In Pictures: Conflict impact." Out of ten photos, the first seven offer the Arab perspective replete with brutal depictions of death and devastation. When you get to the other perspective, you have this one obligatory scene -- an Israeli Soldier covering his ears while one of the IDF troops fires off a missile. The other staple photo presented is one I've seen a lot of lately from the daily LA Times coverage -- the Crying Israeli Soldier image. Oh, this could simply be my paranoia -- my expecting the worst out of the LA Times, whose chief Middle Eastern correspondent, Tracy Wilkerson, is married to a Palestinian. But it is odd the way the LAT seems to appreciate those shots of gun-shy, weepy Israeli men. To be fair, maybe the LAT and the BBC have no photos of any of the carnage inflicted upon Israel. It is possible since Israelis do not parade their dead or pose alongside them while the cameras shoot away. Something about respect for the dead, I think. If a photo never lies, as was suggested in LetsRoque's earlier "post a photo" thread, well, I'd suggest they do some seriously misleading at the best. BBC's summing up of the war to date in 'pitchers." Description of the 10 BBC Photos w/BBC Captions:
1. Israeli jets are continuing to launch strikes across Lebanon after nearly four weeks of fighting. (two men amid the rubble with smoke still rising)
2. The capital Beirut has been a regular target for Israel in its campaign against Hezbollah. (Man with a hose attempting to extinguish a blazing car. This one could be Paris if we didn't know better. Hey, maybe it is... Was Hajj working in France before the Eez-{{{rah}}}-ay-lee Agression?)
3. The city's children have been among those killed and injured in fresh Israeli air strikes. (Three men reach up to something out of frame whhile a small child lies in rubble at their feet)
4. Nearly 1,000 people have now been killed and up to 3,500 injured, the Lebanese government says. (photo shows a hospitalized shirtless young strapping male of "fighting age" with burns and shrapnel damage to his chest, arms and head.)
5. Lebanese hospitals have been stretched to the limit in nearly a month of Israeli bombardment. (elderly woman on a stretcher)
6. Aid agencies estimate that up to a million people are now displaced or homeless. (distraught woman walking with man amid rubble)
7. The damage to infrastructure is hampering aid efforts, especially to southern towns and cities. (Four men doing assembly line delivery of boxes while standing in river -- apparently where a bridge was taken out by the Eez-{{{rah}}}-ay-leez.)
Now the Fair and Balanced part comes with the Eez-{{{rah}}}-ay-lee section:
8. Israel is pounding Hezbollah positions from the air and ground - but the militants' barrage of deadly rockets has continued. (soldier in orthodox Jewish regalia over his uniform, bandaged eye, hands over ears while tank fires from behind him)
9. More than 60 Israeli soldiers have now been killed in clashes with Hezbollah and in rocket strikes. (Three crying Israeli soldiers. Notice there is no mention of civilian deaths here.)
And the final sizing up of the events to date:
10. More funerals have been held on both sides of the border with no sign of an early halt to the violence. (Tight shot of one woman touching the cheek of another woman -- looking sad -- no identifying features to determine if they are Eez-{{{rah}}}-ay-leez or Lebanese. Pretty sure they are not Hezbos.)
You know, I think the BBC was right on one thing -- WARNING: Subsequent images may cause distress. Susan
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| 171. Wednesday, August 9, 2006 9:37 AM |
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An optimistic person would say these were just "mistakes" but a cynical person who has watched the biasness of the MSM for years now would say it's just one more example (gross example) of how biased the MSM really is. And for all those who could never see the (liberal) biasness of the MSM, maybe these things will shed some light on how biased (to the left) the MSM really is. I'm sorry but the images are a gross example of biasness, and the thing you linked above, Raymond, is another pure example. How can a reporter "accidentally" get wronged if a funeral was bombed versus when a small village not near the funeral was bombed. Please.... If they are getting all this wrong, wonder how wrong they get other war stories that have a direct impact on polls????
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| 172. Wednesday, August 9, 2006 12:01 PM |
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OT Susan please check this link out . Just a short ways into it Michelle does a Mother Sheehan reading of her diet plan. Malkin's Sheehan voice impression is dead on-- really good !! http://hotair.com/archives/vent/2006/07/14/gain-weight-on-the-moonbat-fast-plan/
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| 173. Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:33 AM |
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Looks like I'm not the only one who noticed BBC's anti-Israel bias. Wish they could be an honest broker in this news delivery business. Israel says BBC not reporting war fairly Gil Hoffman, THE JERUSALEM POST Aug. 10, 2006
The Foreign Ministry is under pressure from Israeli citizens to resume its boycott of the BBC and to withdraw credentials from its reporters due to "one-sided" reports on the war in Lebanon, Israeli diplomatic officials said Wednesday.
For seven months during a wave of Palestinian violence in 2003, Israeli officials boycotted BBC news programs, declining interviews and excluding BBC reporters from briefings. The boycott was ended after the BBC appointed a panel to oversee its Middle East coverage and to ensure it would be unbiased.
The diplomatic officials said the network had not been reporting the war fairly. Senior diplomatic officials in Jerusalem went as far as saying that "the reports we see give the impression that the BBC is working on behalf of Hizbullah instead of doing fair journalism."
Foreign Ministry Deputy Director-General for Media and Public Affairs Gideon Meir, who declined to comment for this article, spoke on Channel 1 about a column that appeared in The Times of London on July 24 in which Stephen Pollard wrote that a BBC program appeared to have been written by Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
"The BBC's coverage has been overwhelmingly one-sided, with presenters and reporters editorializing against what they universally refer to as 'Israeli attacks on Lebanon,'" Pollard wrote.
Col. (res.) Miri Eisen, who is set to take over as Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's spokeswoman on August 20, called the BBC "the only international English-speaking news outlet that is downright hostile to Israel on every level." Eisen told an audience from the Jewish Federation of Central New Jersey on Wednesday that the BBC's coverage was fair during the first week of the war, but then the network moved its anchors from Haifa to Beirut, and since then it has been similar to Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya.
A Foreign Ministry official said the ministry had compiled a dossier of reports from Lebanon by BBC senior correspondent Jeremy Bowen that officials consider biased.
The BBC press office issued a statement in response.
"Our duty is to provide independent reporting and analysis of all perspectives of a story, so our audiences can make sense of what's going on in the world," the press office said.
"There can be times when this is misread by one or other side of a debate. However, this is not to suggest that we do not take complaints extremely seriously; we do. It is also worth noting that the recent independent panel set up by the (BBC) Board of Governors found no deliberate or systematic bias in the BBC's coverage of the Israel-Palestinian conflict." 
Susan
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| 174. Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:06 AM |
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Yallah ya Nasrallah ... and sing along people! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WxQcWNHmAo :-)
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So now the feckless UN has their ceasefire plan. Here's what the Grand Mufti of Terrorism has to say about that via the Zionist Entity Jerusalem Post: 
Nasrallah: Hizbullah will abide by UN-backed cease-fire
| JPost.com Staff, THE JERUSALEM POST | Aug. 12, 2006 |
Hizbullah Leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said on Saturday that if a UN-endorsed agreement were reached that would end the hostilities, then his organization would abide by it. In a televised speech on Hizbullah-run al-Manar television, he said that he would allow for the deployment of the Lebanese army, augmented by UNIFIL forces, to deploy in southern Lebanon. Still, he said he had some reservations against the resolution, but noted he would bring those up at the Lebanese cabinet meeting that would be convened on Saturday evening. His strongest reservation was against the arms embargo that the cease-fire agreement called for. Cease-fire analysis: Not so bad in theory He expressed the hope that the end of the war was near, but warned that the end would not arrive for another few days. Nasrallah noted that the Israeli military activity continued, under American approval, in order to gain territorial accomplishments before the cease-fire would go into effect. The Lebanese leader said that Hizbullah would not cease its actions against "the Zionist enemy." We will continue to "fulfill our national and jihadic obligations." He promised that his organization would continue to fight until the Israeli troops left Israel. Still, he claimed that Hizbullah activities came in response to the Israeli offensive, and so, if the IDF ceased its military activity, then Hizbullah would also. The Hizbullah leader commended the Lebanese people and fighters for their stamina, saying that without such endurance, Israel would be the one dictating the terms of the cease-fire and Lebanon would be in a much worse position than they were in before.
How bizarre that a terrorist leader, with his own television station, can broadcast that HE will ALLOW the Lebanese and UN (tee hee -- they were really effective the past 28 years) troops to deploy in southern Lebanon. It would be as if some militia group in northern Montana came on national TV in the US and announced they would "allow" US troops to deploy. Okay, this whole fiasco within the UN seems to be perceived as way meaningless from most quarters. In fact, I'm having a hard time understanding the hidden meaning to it all. Ceasefire? Ich don't think so. I wish Sharon were alive and well. Susan
“Half a truth is often a great lie.” Ben Franklin
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