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| 1. Monday, September 4, 2006 10:10 AM |
| nuart |
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Statistics are an especially squishy zone for distorting facts. You can create a deceptive view of reality all while being completely factual. With a little article complete with graphs, the BBC has analyzed some of the changes in the US since the "events" of 9/11. I think their section on "Hate Crimes" is a perfect illustration of the deceptive view which I will illustrate with some facts of my own. Here's the BBC link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/5305868.stm Here's the Muslim Hate Crime graph:
Reports of Muslims being targeted because of their religion was virtually unheard of before 9/11, hovering at around 30 incidents a year. After spiking in 2001, incidents have levelled off at about 150 a year (2005 figures are not yet available).*
Now if you look at this section and see that humongous blue spike shooting upward (hey, it resembles one of a pair of buildings a little bit, doesn't it?), you'd think there had been a bloodbath in the US against Muslims in late 2001. But.. More illuminating facts. What is a hate crime as defined by the keeper of such stats, the FBI. Incredibly, hundreds of people are still subjected to violent crimes each year simply because of their race, color, religion, or national origin. Others suffer discrimination when they attempt to get housing, or are intimidated by neighbors upon moving in. Such acts are against federal law and the FBI vigorously investigates any complaint about what has come to be known as "hate crime."
A hate crime is all of the above. The BBC chart does not detail how many hate murders there were in the aftermath of 9/11 nor how many cases of being intimidated by neighbors. But still, what a leap! The majority of hate motivated offenses directed against property (84.4 percent) involved destruction, damage, or vandalism.
So how many murders of Muslim hate crime victims were there in the United States of Amerikkka in 2001? From a San Francisco Chronicle story: San Francisco Chronicle November 26, 2002
Ten of the hate crime victims in 2001 were murdered, according to the report. Nine of the murders were motivated by racial or ethnic hate -- three victims were African American, two were Latino, one was categorized as Asian or Pacific Islander, and the other three were listed as "other." One murder was motivated by anti-gay bias, the report said.
There were no slayings of Muslims reported. The report listed intimidation as the most common hate crime against Muslims last year, with 296 incidents. There also were 27 incidents of aggravated assault and 66 incidents of simple assault against Muslims, the report said.
Anti-Muslim incidents were previously the second least reported, but in 2001, "presumably as a result of the heinous incidents that occurred on Sept. 11," they became the second-highest among religious-biased incidents, second only to 1,043 anti-Jewish incidents, according to the report.
So let's move forward and see how these wild and wooly hateful Americans carried on as we look at the most recent statistics that are in for the full year of 2004: Victims of religious intolerance made up 16.7 percent of the victims of incidents involving a single bias. Of those, 67.8 percent were victims of anti-Jewish bias, and 12.7 percent were targets of anti-Islamic bias.
Considering that both Jews and Muslims are of about equal numbers (6,000,000 each) in the US, it seems that maybe the headline should be something about the wildly out of control Jewish attacks. The BBC doesn't offer that statistic. Who can blame them? Some stories are too "dog bites man" to merit much coverage.
FBI: Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders by Religious Motivation, 2004
RELIGION-----INCIDENTS----OFFENSES----VICTIMS----KNOWN OFFENDERS
Anti-Jewish -------954-------------1,003----------1,076-------------330
Anti-Catholic---------57-----------------57--------------68---------------37
Anti-Protestant-------38-----------------43--------------48---------------28
Anti-Islamic-------156---------------193------------201-------------124
Anti-Other-----------128----------------140-------------147--------------68
Anti-Multiple----------35----------------37---------------39--------------14
Anti-Atheism/----------6-----------------7----------------7---------------3 Agnosticism
All of which tells me that the BBC version is attempting to inflate the story of Anti-Muslim Hate within the USA to distort the overall true picture. Why have one out of five of their "What Happened After 9/11?" graphs on Anti-Muslim Hate Crimes as if that were a worrisome develpment??? You tell me, BBC supporters! Factual? Sure. Relevant? I think not. Indicative of a 'long-term trend?' Rubbish! Don't forget -- this is the headline of their article: How 9/11 changed America: In statistics Five years after the 11 September attacks, how has America changed? Click through these graphs to explore long-term trends in selected aspects of life.
Lies, damned lies and statistics... Susan
“Half a truth is often a great lie.” Ben Franklin
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| 2. Monday, September 4, 2006 1:10 PM |
| herofix |
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I can't believe you went through all that trouble! Did you lift that off a blog or type that out yourself? Anyways, yeah, good point about statistics, and also about that particular graph. The BBC employee most likely selected that statistic as it seemed topical, since seemingly at least half of all news headlines these days seem to involve Muslims, and the media as a whole is obsessed with mentioning them as often as possible. The BBC has their policy of trying to avoid bias, and it is surely more stringent than almost any other organisation. It is wrong to accuse the BBC of a corporation-wide pro-Muslim bias. Some Muslims, equally rabid about the topics du jour complain about anti-Muslim bias from the BBC. Ian Paisley complains of anti-Loyalist bias. Gerry Adams complains of anti-republican bias. Labour spin doctors complain of anti-Blairite bias, Conservative spin doctors moan about anti-Tory bias. The Lib Dems complain that they don't get enough air time full stop. If they have a new drama on BBC1 about black families living in a council estate they are portraying negative stereotypes, if they don't they are ignoring that minority group and being socially exclusive to that group. If they gave you a glass of water you'd accuse them of being condescending, and if they didn't you accuse them of letting you die of thirst. Leave it out.
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| 3. Monday, September 4, 2006 2:06 PM |
| nuart |
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| QUOTE: 1. Did you lift that off a blog or type that out yourself? Anyways, yeah, good point about statistics, and also about that particular graph. 2. The BBC employee most likely selected that statistic as it seemed topical, since seemingly at least half of all news headlines these days seem to involve Muslims, and the media as a whole is obsessed with mentioning them as often as possible. The BBC has their policy of trying to avoid bias, and it is surely more stringent than almost any other organisation. It is wrong to accuse the BBC of a corporation-wide pro-Muslim bias. Some Muslims, equally rabid about the topics du jour complain about anti-Muslim bias from the BBC. Ian Paisley complains of anti-Loyalist bias. Gerry Adams complains of anti-republican bias. Labour spin doctors complain of anti-Blairite bias, Conservative spin doctors moan about anti-Tory bias. The Lib Dems complain that they don't get enough air time full stop. If they have a new drama on BBC1 about black families living in a council estate they are portraying negative stereotypes, if they don't they are ignoring that minority group and being socially exclusive to that group. If they gave you a glass of water you'd accuse them of being condescending, and if they didn't you accuse them of letting you die of thirst. Leave it out. |
Now the answers: 1. How insulting! No, I didn't lift it from anywhere. It's all me own work! This morning as I was reading and cross referencing stories from BBC, Al Jazeera and Jerusalem Post (my usual triad of competing news sources online) I happened on this front page story. The graph struck me as misleading, so I did my own fact checking by going to the horse's mouth -- the FBI home page. Anyone could do so but maybe the article didn't inspire enough interest. For me it did, because it seemed certain to elicit a Hero-retort. Oh, glad you agree on that one graph. 2. Yeah, I understand how it happens that both sides accuse a news outlet of favoring the other. While it may be "an individual BBC employee" there is a reason BBC is periodically banned from Israel, for one. Have they ever been banned by the Palestinians? Not sure about that. Sure Muslim groups will accuse some of "Islamaphobia" too. Somewhere there is an overall generalization that can be fairly made about the Beeb's objectivity in 21st century news coverage, though as sufferers of 'eraism' we are all too close to properly judge, I suppose. But I was not accusing them of "pro-Muslim" bias, either. Though I'd say the BBC tends to be more in lockstep with any random Palestinian over any random Israeli, I don't think they are across the board "pro-Muslim." Pro-perceived underdog, maybe. I think it's more a case of anti-American bias or more specifically, anti-Bush administration bias. Deny that, will you?! The reason this graph was drawn up was to demonstrate how the hateful right wing sheeple would attack poor innocent Muslims under the leadership of a racist like Bush. More than anything, I think this 5 graph story was more useless than anything else. There is a story to tell about what changes have taken place post-9/11 America. But presidential polls, how many people fly commercially, hate crimes, or how many articles mention Bin Laden are not the major story in my opinion. There will be volumes written on the subject of the havoc wreaked by that September day's attack. Some day. For now I'd describe those changes as revolving around a collective sense of being afloat, unsettled, shaken, suckerpunched and stunned, eager to strike back, with no voices of wisdom to adequately lay out a plan for America's future. I'd say that this in turn has led to a myriad of conspiracy theories, second guessing, partisan bickering, short-sightedness, finger pointing, distractions, all coated with a cloud of potential future gloom. This is not something Americans are accustomed to and five years later we have yet to fully grasp, nor even agree upon, the meaning of what happened nor the full extent of the threat. As long as critiquing the media remains a popular parlor game among the riff-raff, I'll be playing.
Susan
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| 4. Tuesday, September 5, 2006 1:42 AM |
| herofix |
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As a publicly-funded and non-private sector public-service organisation, I find it very likely that a significant majority of the BBC's executive and journalistic staff consider themselves to be standing somewhere to the left of centre. This will suggest that there may be an anti-Bush feeling inside Broadcasting House which would occasionally find its way into the reporting of news as a noticeable bias. 
Pro-underdog? Well, yes, every night from 7:00 I can listen to non-chart music from every conceivable genre of music from bands on tiny home-made labels and even unsigned bands. Where else I could indulge my obsession for new music which sits outside the narrow constraints of commercial radio, TV and record labels, I really don't know. I feel that they are a wonderful, usually reliable and incredibly valuable organisation.
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| 5. Thursday, September 7, 2006 1:25 PM |
| nuart |
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Hey, look what I found today! Evidence of BBC objectivity. It's worthy of noting. Have to laugh at that last disclaimer line of the article though and wonder why "our correspondent" was unnamed. Could it be that in spite of Sudan's flexibility, our correspondent still fears for his head?
Susan Kidnapped Sudan editor beheaded The beheaded body of a Sudanese newspaper editor has been found on the outskirts of the capital, Khartoum. Mohammed Taha ran the al-Wifaq paper and was taken from his home on Tuesday night by an unknown group of armed men. Last year, he was put on trial for blasphemy after his pro-government paper reprinted an article questioning the parentage of the prophet Muhammad. The charges were later dropped but if convicted of blasphemy under Sharia law, he could have been put to death. The BBC's Jonah Fisher in Khartoum says no-one has claimed responsibility but suspicion will immediately turn to Sudan's hardline Islamic groups. In May last year, thousands of people demonstrated outside a courtroom in central Khartoum calling for Mr Taha to be put to death. After several emotionally charged days the case was adjourned and later quietly dropped. Our correspondent says the killing of Mr Taha, an ally of Khartoum's Islamist government, will raise fears that extremist groups are once again active in Sudan. Sudan provided a home for al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in the 1990s and the country is still on the United States' list of states sponsoring terrorism. Khartoum has been governed by strict Islamic Sharia law since 1983 - but our correspondent says that in recent years courts have shown a degree of flexibility in their interpretations of Islamic law.
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| 6. Thursday, September 7, 2006 2:33 PM |
| herofix |
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Is it not Jonah Fisher? Is our disagreement on these things due to you not reading things properly?
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| 7. Thursday, September 7, 2006 3:34 PM |
| nuart |
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| QUOTE: Is it not Jonah Fisher? Is our disagreement on these things due to you not reading things properly? |
Got me on that one, Andrew! Let's go after his head! I plead too many weeks of sub-Saharan heat.
Funny you would say 'our disagreement' though when I pointed out this article was "Evidence of BBC objectivity." Susan
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| 8. Friday, September 8, 2006 1:37 AM |
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Just feelin' cantankerous.  
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