... Mark Ruffalo. I used to like this guy, too. Darn. Now more than ever -- "Please Don't Share Your Politics; Just ACT!" Notice how I softened the message?

Mark showed up at a World Can't Wait protest to share a few of his deep thoughts and later in studio with the Doyenne of Dissenters, Amy "Democracy Now!" - Not Later - Goodman. Well, someone had to show up to express their previously suppressed views on stuff like that liar bu$hCo and the illegal war and that hurricane Bush caused by warming the globulars. Maybe it wasn't the massive turn-out the convicted murderers, devout Communists, and other sundry 'dissident' organizers had hoped for, but there were several dressed in black gong-bangers on hand Thursday to do their thing.

Check out the transcript below. Have you read/heard this, Matt and Trey? A new Film Actors Guild marionette is born!

And now, without further ado, this one goes out to Gavin!

Susan

• Mark Ruffalo, actor. His latest film, just released, is called "All the King's Men" where he stars alongside Sean Penn.

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AMY GOODMAN: In Oakland, Vietnam whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg spoke alongside poet and author Alice Walker and hip-hop artist Boots Riley. Here in New York speakers included former British Ambassador Craig Murray, attorney Bill Goodman, actors Olympia Dukakis and Mark Ruffalo. Ruffalo stopped by our studio yesterday to talk about his participation in the event. His latest film, just released, is called All the King's Men, where he stars alongside Sean Penn. I began by asking Mark Ruffalo if this marks the first time he’s speaking out.

MARK RUFFALO: Actually, it is. I started to get involved during this election, in the last election with Kerry, and I went and campaigned for him in my home state. And I had never really been politically sort of motivated. My second child was born, and I started to feel, you know, I had a responsibility to them and a responsibility as an actor, you know, to -- I don't know -- to give back a little bit something. And, you know, I started to feel alarmed by what I had seen happening with the Iraq war. And so I started to read up and get involved. And I voted, and I wrote letters, and I called people, and I gave them my time and my money, and I felt like we just -- I wasn't being heard. There’s a huge constituency of Americans that just aren't being heard. It isn't -- what we’re asking isn't being reflected in the way this administration is governing.

And I started looking around for a forum, enabled to feel like I could be heard, and these people, all these people, who were feeling the same way as me could be heard. And I saw an ad for World Can't Wait in the New York Times a few months ago. Many people that I respected and, you know, had always been interested in their political point of view were a part of it. And so, I called, and I asked how I could get involved. And little by little, here I am now.

AMY GOODMAN: Speaking out.

MARK RUFFALO: Speaking out, yeah.

AMY GOODMAN: Your latest film is All the King's Men?

MARK RUFFALO: That's right.

AMY GOODMAN: And do you think this can be put in this political context? What is it about?

MARK RUFFALO: Well, I think ultimately it’s based on Robert Penn Warren's book by the same title, and James Carville told me early on that it was the sort of underground political manual for American politics. And, you know, it’s about a man who is the governor of Louisiana, who actually steals from the rich and gives to the poor, which is an anomaly in itself. But --

AMY GOODMAN: You’re talking Huey P. Long?

MARK RUFFALO: Yeah, Huey P. Long. And, you know, the book sort of plays in that moral ambiguity. And Walter Mondale said you could always tell a politician by the deals he makes. Are the deals generally for the people or are they deals that are just awarding a small constituency of people, a small group of people? And I feel like this administration is just, you know, awarding this small group of their own friends and interests, you know?

AMY GOODMAN: How dangerous is it or popular is it to speak out in Hollywood?

 

But I feel like -- I don't know -- I feel like it’s not enough just for me to complain to people in closed quarters. I feel like I have to sort of put my money where my mouth is, not unlike Sean Penn does. And because I might have a disproportionate amount of -- I don't know -- influence on people or my voice is more able to be heard, I feel like I have a responsibility to speak up.

AMY GOODMAN: When you spoke out at an event this week, you read a statement of Sean Penn?

MARK RUFFALO: Yes.

AMY GOODMAN: What’s the most powerful part of that statement for you?

MARK RUFFALO: Well, you know, Sean also has this incredible wit, which is included in here: “In fascism, one serves a state. Let's show the world that with democracy we can make the state do our bidding. And that such bids would not be the blind ones given exclusively to the friends of power, but rather the domain of the people of freedom everywhere. This in an administration that advocates torture, deceives the public, spends billions of dollars on a failed war. This is an administration, where in the year of Katrina ExxonMobil claimed the highest profit margin in the history of world business. It is an administration that belittles, demeans, deceives, and indeed kills our brothers and sisters, our sons and our daughters. In the human family, the President is indeed pushing his wheelchair-bound grandmother down the stairs with a smile on his face.”

AMY GOODMAN: These, the words of Sean Penn?

MARK RUFFALO: Yeah.

AMY GOODMAN: So, you speak out now. You were active in the Kerry campaign at the end. Do you think Democrats have the answer?

MARK RUFFALO: I think they're -- they seem to be a little hamstrung right now. You know, this intelligence act that just passed that basically throws habeas corpus out the window -- habeas corpus, which is basically the right at the seed of civilization that you have if you’re put in a prison cell, that someone has to come up with a piece of evidence to tell you, that tells the world and you what exactly they’re holding you for. Well, they’ve tossed that out the window now. And that’s to any enemy combatant, which is really a prisoner of war. There’s a mandate for rights that these people have. Well, we’ve tossed that out the window. That’s been around since 1252. And the Democrats rolled on that, hoping that the Supreme Court will take care of it, hoping not to look soft of national security. To me, that’s fundamentally the basis of democracy. And I don't know what else to do. I’m frustrated. I think many people are frustrated.

AMY GOODMAN: You went down to New Orleans after Katrina?

MARK RUFFALO: That's right.

AMY GOODMAN: What did you do there? (in Itchy-coo park...I got hi-igh there...)

MARK RUFFALO: I looked around. You know, I had spent a month in that city, living there with those people, enjoying it.

AMY GOODMAN: Now, you filmed All the King’s Men there.

MARK RUFFALO: Yeah. We filmed All the King's Men there. All of it, Baton Rouge --

AMY GOODMAN: Through the hurricane.

MARK RUFFALO: No, no, no. It was before the hurricane. And then we left, and I hadn’t been back since. We went and premiered the movie there. And there are parts of that city that are an absolute war zone. The Ninth Ward hasn't been touched, where all those poor people who are in Dallas and Houston, all what we call “refugees” now in America. American citizens, we call them “refugees,” all over the United States scattered to the wind. Their homes are still sitting there, rotting. Nothing’s been done.

Now, we have a president who says, “The buck stops here.” So, the next thing you have to say is, “Okay, if the buck stops here, then you’re to blame for these people's lives being completely destroyed.” And no one -- they’re Americans. No one’s there to help them. And now it’s silent. Now, there's no questioning about it. It's forgotten.

AMY GOODMAN: Have you considered organizing within Hollywood?

MARK RUFFALO: I, you know, I try. I talk to people there. I do it in my own way. I feel like someone's got to make a step. be the sacrificial sheep, so to speak. And then, I’m hoping that people will sort of get behind me, you know. They do. And they do in a quiet way. You know, I’m terrified to show my face as the sort of, you know -- there’s a lot of outspoken people, and Sean is certainly one of them. And I’m following in his footsteps, and Paul Haggis and Harry Belafonte, and, you know, there’s many, many others.

And I feel like as things get ratcheted up and people start to come out more, certainly World Can't Wait, you know, this October 5th protest, I feel like for every person that comes out, there’s a hundred more people who feel emboldened in their lives throughout the United States. So, for me to come out, maybe that will give other people a feeling that there’s a place to voice their concerns and their dissatisfaction.

AMY GOODMAN: Explain the protest.

MARK RUFFALO: Well, it's World Can't Wait to Drive Out the Bush Regime is October 5th. And it’s in 175 cities. It went from 60 cities to 175 cities since last week. I think something like, there’s nine cities in Texas, Bush's home state. There's something like 28 protests in 31 of the red states. This thing is -- people are finding a way to sort of voice their discouragement through this thing. And that’s why it’s grown like wildfire. And there’s another -- we had an ad in the USA Today. There is an ad in the New York Times. There’s another ad coming in the New York Times, I think, next week.

And there’s just been an outpouring of people's contributions and concerns, and sort of people have come out to embrace this thing. And, you know, maybe -- it’s a coalition. None of us really share the same political beliefs, other than that we don't want a theocracy. We don't torture people. We take care of our own, i.e., Katrina. We don't want to be in Iraq for an illegal unjust war. These are things that everyone in America feels. I’d say 75% to 80% of the people in American feel this.

AMY GOODMAN: Do you have a next project?

MARK RUFFALO: I’m working on a movie right now with Joaquin Phoenix that Terry George is directing called Reservation Road. And I have Zodiac coming out, the David Fincher film, in January.

AMY GOODMAN: Mark Ruffalo is an actor. He’s starring with Sean Penn in All the King's Men, was in Collateral. He’s speaking out against war, against the Bush administration, against torture for the first time.

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

Egad! Just learn your lines Ruffy. Don't go making the script up as you go and don't go wandering off the set. 

Beauty is momentary in the mind -
The fitful tracing of a portal;
But in the flesh it is immortal.
The body dies; the body's beauty lives.
So evenings die, in their green going,
A wave, interminably flowing.
So gardens die, their meek breath scenting
the cowl of winter, done repenting.
So maidens die, to the auroral
Celebration of a maiden's choral.
Susanna's music touched the bawdy strings
Of those white elders; but, escaping,
Left only Death's ironic scraping.
Now in its immortality, it plays
On the clear viol of her memory,
And makes a constant sacrement of praise.

('Peter Quince at the Clavier' by Wallace Stevens)

As someone who wouldn't know Mark Ruffalo if I found him in my soup, and based upon my reading of daily news, I scarcely believe the average actor or musician can know much less about either politics or governance than the average politician.

In the US, it seems actors often count for politicians. It just goes to show, actors need scripts, props and directorial guidance; the absence of these and the presence of actors may be why watching the political scene is increasingly like watching a C-grade film.

Beauty is momentary in the mind -
The fitful tracing of a portal;
But in the flesh it is immortal.
The body dies; the body's beauty lives.
So evenings die, in their green going,
A wave, interminably flowing.
So gardens die, their meek breath scenting
the cowl of winter, done repenting.
So maidens die, to the auroral
Celebration of a maiden's choral.
Susanna's music touched the bawdy strings
Of those white elders; but, escaping,
Left only Death's ironic scraping.
Now in its immortality, it plays
On the clear viol of her memory,
And makes a constant sacrement of praise.

('Peter Quince at the Clavier' by Wallace Stevens)

Good to see you in the nether-regions, Booth! Yes, it is the overly solicitous attention to actors as in "Mark Ruffalo: ACTOR" that just cracks me up. At least Paris keeps her mouth shut. About politics, that is. In a way, you feel sorry for them but then, sometimes an actor's verbalization is just so damned funny it deserves its own thread amid the opinions of the REAL PEOPLE. Having Mark Ruffalo channeling Sean Penn and parroting his lines was a double dipper treat.

You know you enjoyed it.

PS  A visual for Jamie.  He's a cute guy.  Here he is with Naomi Watts in "We Don't Live Here Anymore."

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

He's pretty.

I read this brilliant call to ... ah, call to "looking around.", and I think Amy Goodman is taken back by the nothingness of this actor.

 For instance she feeds him a line: AMY "  You went down to New Orleans after Katrina? " MARK " That's right ! " Then AMY: "What did you do there? " MARK " I looked around." [Period]

Then Amy tries to throw him a rescue line. AMY:"  Now, you filmed All the King’s Men there. "  MARK : "Yeah. We filmed All the King's Men there. All of it, Baton Rouge -- " 

AMY : "Through the hurricane. "

MARK: "No, no, no. It was before the hurricane. And then we left, and I hadn’t been back since. "

I am no fan of Amy Goodman, but I can sympathise with her curtailing this mistake ASAP !

To be fair to ole Mark, he did say he returned to Louisiana for the premiere of "All the King's Men" which is when he got a good look around. In spite of the terror he feels from being a speaker-outer, he freely ventured over to screaming students for an autograph session as well. So let's not misunderestimate his courage.

Oh, and here's a little clip of Mark's passionate Step Down speech .  I shouldn't pick on him so, but, well... it's too hard to resist. 

From the Tulane U newspaper:

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

Olympia "Lest We Forget Moonstruck" Dukakis gets into the spotlight once again with a rousing speech to the same friendly crowd as Mark Ruffalo.  I have one nagging question after watching these two presentations... Don't actors memorize their lines?  What's with the pages of script at the podium? It's not like it was even that hard to recall -- "fire his ass."  I got it the first time through.

Susan 

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

"Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas whorehouses, etc,..."