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| 1. Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:30 PM |
| nuart |
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Or unacceptable public behavior. Well, they seem more like pet peeves to me but they're interesting. See if you agree. If I had to keep the top ten list, I think I might invert it. I can't stand smoking farters who litter.
Susan UK News OK: Covered flesh is fine  No Nudes Is Good News Updated: 23:11, Wednesday October 25, 2006 Nudity in public is the greatest modern taboo, according to a survey. Almost two out of five (37%) people placed nakedness at the top of a list of unacceptable public practices. It was followed by wearing a hoodie (12%), public displays of affection (11%) and breast-feeding (9%). Mobile ring tones, arguing and drinking alcohol came next. The survey was conducted by Hasbro, makers of the board game The Big Taboo, to mark the fourth National Game Playing Week. Cheeky: But naked rollercoaster riding is out Nick Atkinson, of British Naturism, said British people still had unnecessary hang-ups about nudity. He said: "I am shocked that people rate nudity in public as more offensive than drinking alcohol or farting." The top ten taboos, compiled with answers from 3,013 people, was: 1. Being naked in public (37%) 2. Wearing a hoodie (12%) 3. Public displays of affection (11%) 4. Breast-feeding (9%) 5. Mobile phone ringtones (8%) 6. Arguing (7%) 7. Drinking alcohol (6%) 8. Litter (3%) 9. Smoking (2%) 10 Flatulence (2%)
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| 2. Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:57 AM |
| LetsRoque |
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I don't see the big deal with breast feeding in public and i'm not being facetious. Is it taboo in the US? I see it as a natural thing and it should be encouraged, even if it has to be a public feeding! However I watched a show that had kids as old as 3 or so still doing it and that is just plain weird!
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| 3. Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:43 AM |
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Public breastfeeding has got a bit of the peasant sensibility to it, James! (speaking as a once proud member of the La Leche League) But we're all about discretion here in the US and A. Go somewhere private and keep that breast concealed. Sitting in the middle of a restaurant and lifting your shirt -- that would be disturbing. "No Nips" is a good rule of thumb for social propriety. Certainly no spurting of milk onto passersby while breastfeeding your baby while pushing a shopping cart at the market. But you know, this one brings to mind my greater pet peeve -- BABIES AND SMALL CHILDREN IN FANCY RESTAURANTS!!! Nursing or not, they are almost always disruptive. Argh I cringe when we're seated at a nice restaurant, have placed our order and are relaxing with a glass of wine when in walks a family with a baby seat, a diaper bag and maybe a toddler in tow. Ewwwwwwwww!!! What a damper. Yeah, that would make my number one especially if the baby was smoking, farting and littering. How about this one! Friends or family with a baby come to your home. At a certain point they have to change the diaper. Then they carry the dirty diaper into the kitchen and place it in your trash compactor!!!! I actually had friends do this once!!!! EWWWWWWW, again! Susan
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| 4. Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:29 AM |
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Once again the uncovered meat is the problem.
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| 5. Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:00 AM |
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Yes, you're both right! Nothing worse than seepage from bodily orifices that shouldn't be seeping into the wrong containers. Or something. Now that I think about it, I've got another pet peeve! Will there ever be a film without the obligatory VOMIT scene??? Maybe it's just the Virgo in my soul but I just hate vomit scenes. The only one I have ever truly loved was the vomit scene in Team America -- that is, the Director's Cut -- the full, unadultrated vomit scene. I love the vomit icon though. I look back with fond nostalgia to the days when ne'er a toilet appeared in a film or on a TV show. I'd rather see a dozen people wearing hoodies than watch one of them vomit. Susan
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| 6. Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:43 PM |
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Ok, so what's a " hoodie " ?
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| 7. Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:52 PM |
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| 8. Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:24 PM |
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What's so offensive about hoodies?
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| 9. Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:17 PM |
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I think it's a UK thing, Booth. Probably has to do with those "Chavs" in their Burberry hoodies. Now if my hammer and sickle hoodie guy were the exemplar, I'm sure no one would have any objections to such a garment. Then there was the Uni-bomber's hoodie... Susan
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| 10. Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:15 PM |
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I WANT THAT HOODIE. GIVE IT TO ME NOW.

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| 11. Friday, October 27, 2006 6:11 AM |
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QUOTE:What's so offensive about hoodies?
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Unfortunately there was a spate of incidents in UK shopping centres where people in hoodies were stealing from shops and even abducting children from the centres; these people were wearing the hoods up on purpose to prevent their identification from the CCTV tapes...so they have banned the wearing of hoodies and baseball caps in all the shopping centres over here. Why on earth they couldn't stick to the old-fashioned method of heaving a brick through a window to steal goods, I don't know.
My theory by A. Elk, brackets, Miss, brackets. This theory goes as follows and begins now. All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much much thicker in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is my theory, it is mine, and it belongs to me, and I own it, and what it is, too. Ange's Odyssey
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| 12. Friday, October 27, 2006 9:02 AM |
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I had to laugh at David 'I'm so down with it' Cameron and his hug-a-hoodie initiative. He's supposed to be a conservative...he's trying to out-blair blair and blair is trying to be more like thatcher. The world's gone mad I tell ya...
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| 13. Friday, October 27, 2006 9:42 AM |
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Well, I'd agree with you there, James! There's a dearth of wisdom these days most certainly! I found this on the Always Reliable and Never Biased BBC. What a riot! Qua es "yobbish" btw? Susan Cameron to make 'hoodie' appeal Conservative leader David Cameron is expected to call for greater understanding of teenage "hoodies" in a forthcoming speech on social justice. Mr Cameron will say teenagers who hide under hooded tops are trying to "blend in" rather than appear threatening. In a speech on Monday he will describe them as "a response to a problem, not a problem itself". And he will argue that while teenage criminals must be punished, they should also be shown "a lot more love". Hooded tops have come to be viewed by some as a symbol of social disorder.
| In a dangerous environment the best thing to do is keep your head down, blend in
David Cameron | Last year the Bluewater shopping centre in Kent banned people wearing hooded tops, and said youths were using the hoods to shield their faces from CCTV cameras while committing crimes. "We - the people in suits - often see hoodies as aggressive, the uniform of a rebel army of young gangsters," the Tory leader is expected to say. "But hoodies are more defensive than offensive. They're a way to stay invisible in the street. In a dangerous environment the best thing to do is keep your head down, blend in." Mr Cameron will say that, for some people, "the hoodie represents all that's wrong about youth culture in Britain today". However, he will go on: "For me, adult society's response to the hoodie shows how far we are from finding the long-term answers to put things right." 'Softer tone' Mr Cameron's speech on Monday is also expected to draw on the film Kidulthood to illustrate the dilemmas that many young people face on a regular basis. The British film attracted controversy for its violent portrayal of teenage life in west London. BBC political correspondent Jo Coburn said: "David Cameron's new softer tone on crime and yobbish behaviour is the latest in a series of speeches designed to broaden the party's appeal.
| Just because you wear a hooded top doesn't mean that you are automatically a criminal 
Ben Olive-Jones, Chichester, UK
| "He's already talked about the importance of the family and called for fathers to be present at the birth of their children; now he says it's time to look to be more sympathetic to so-called bad kids." The party leader's comments echo sentiments expressed by the Archbishop of York earlier this year. Dr John Sentamu wore a hooded top during a conference on youth work in the Church as he urged people not to judge teenagers by their choice of fashion. Mr Cameron's immigration spokesman, Damian Green, said his party was addressing the twin problems of youth crime and alienated young people - issues which the prime minister had failed to deliver on despite his stance of being "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime". 'Watch his back' Referring to that stance, Mr Green said: "That's indeed what we should aspire to as a policy, that's what he's failed to do in government. "We've seen that youth crime is growing and that violent crime is growing so (while) Tony Blair's soundbites were good, Tony Blair's actions in government have been less good." Mr Cameron's approach is being seen as part of an attempt to broaden his party's appeal and reach out to younger voters. However, former Tory MP and newspaper columnist Michael Brown said traditional Tory voters may not agree with Mr Cameron's stance. "David Cameron is pushing at the envelope with regard to his backbench support and the support in the grassroots constituencies," he told BBC Breakfast. "I suspect this isn't going to go down too well in the Bromleys and the Chislehursts. "I suspect he's going to have to watch his back and as he seeks new friends, as he seeks the new liberal constituency he's got to make sure he doesn't lose his conservative constituency."
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| 14. Friday, October 27, 2006 10:24 AM |
| Flangella |
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Yobs are usually classified as working class, adolescent males - alternative name would be hooligan or ruffian (just wanted to slip that word in there as I like it). So yobbish behaviour covers all the usual British Friday night activities - fighting, drinking to the point of putting yourself in a coma, aggressive behaviour of the verbal and physical kind, destruction or theft of property, etc etc. Boy we sure know how to live...
My theory by A. Elk, brackets, Miss, brackets. This theory goes as follows and begins now. All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much much thicker in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is my theory, it is mine, and it belongs to me, and I own it, and what it is, too. Ange's Odyssey
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| 15. Sunday, October 29, 2006 1:06 PM |
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Yep you gotta love our 'english-isms'
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| 16. Thursday, November 2, 2006 6:12 AM |
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lol, I just don't get why people are so "offended" by nudity. Same with a mum feeding her baby. I don't think it is a matter of offense, more that nudity, even though it is completely natural and harmless frightens people. I mean, yeah, some people you look at all their wrinkly saggy bits and think "ew!" but we come in many differnt shapes and sizes.. Nobody forces anyone to look at the naked/breastefeeding people but they do and I think that is why they pretened to be offended by it because they're denying that part of themselves that knows it is natural and reading sex into everything. Either that or pretending to be offended because they want the tits. hehe I would have no problem joining a nudist camp. I doubt Rush would either. The body is a beautiful work of art. it is just sad that we have become so afraid of and apprehensive of it to me. I work skyclad all the time and I don't care about being naked but it did make me afraid years ago when I first became a wiccan, but to me now it just poses the question of
What an uptight society we live in!
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| 17. Thursday, November 2, 2006 6:36 AM |
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^^^^^Exacto I mean, why should a wee baby's hunger be prolonged until a more convenient time and place is reached? Just to avoid offending prudish, uptight or snooty people? Feck that! Get them out!!
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| 18. Thursday, November 2, 2006 12:22 PM |
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Oh, pullease, kids! It is not a matter of being prudish. It's about etiquette. Good manners. It's a matter of time and place. Even having small children in a fine restaurant, for example, is jarring. Add breast-feeding to that initial blatant offense (there oughta be a law ), regardless of the character and shape of the breast, and it's also out of place. It's selfish and narcissitic of the mother who would value her 'right' to disrupt the atmosphere of a dining room above her fellow diners simply because she is a breastfeeding mom and her baby is hungry. Should the baby need a diapey change, another perfectly natural occurence, why not lie the child down on the banquette and baby wipe away. Whazza matter, you? Never seen a baby's innocent little behind? How's about burping the same baby after the visit to tikes supping at the Milk Bar? Barfing on mom's shoulder at the next table okay by you? Not me. As for the body beautiful and the nudist camps, it reminds me of the Jerry Seinfeld episode with "good naked/bad naked" when he had a beautiful girlfriend who enjoyed walking around his apartment in the altogether. Oh, but you had to be there. It was hilarious! "Bad naked" had something to do with vacuuming and bending over dusting coffee tables. "Good naked" was mostly with dimly lit bedrooms. Funny because it's true.
It is the rare nudist colony that can scrounge up enough beautiful bodies to achieve a really good overall look to the surroundings. Few nudist colonies are inhabited by the usual denizens of the Playboy mansion's grotto. And that's just when discussing the women. The men? Rarer still. I am not a prude nor particularly uptight. Snooty? Maybe. But I do not want to sit alongside babies, sucking on either bottles or breasts, in a nice restaurant or any other similar venue. I would not want to be either an observer or member of the Happy Jaybird Badminton Team. It's about ambience, guys! Now tell me, would you prefer to eat your dinner by candlelight with a nice flame burning in a quaint fireplace, with pretty sconces and sparkly chandeliers on low dimmers? Over-stuffed armchairs pulled up to an antique rubbed-with-age oak table? Cut crystal goblets, linen napkins, silverware and fine porcelain plates? Or does the same meal taste just as good with flourescent tube lighting or one bare 300 watt light bulb overhead? A folding chair and a TV tray? Plastic forks and knives, paper plates, and a paper cup with a straw? Elbows on the table A-OK? Belching? Call me snooty. I prefer the moniker "aesthetic." (I always loved Dick Tremayne!) A place for everything and everything in its place.  Susan
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| 19. Friday, November 3, 2006 7:06 AM |
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What happens if say, the mother is on a long bus journey somewhere and the baby is crying? I know for snooty types like yourself Susan it is hard to imagine being on public transport with common folk, but just imagine for the sake of argument.  So what would you rather have ? A wide-awake, yappy, little demon spawn or a content little bundle of joy eased back into dreamland by the natural milk of his mother's breast?
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| 20. Friday, November 3, 2006 10:43 AM |
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| QUOTE: What happens if say, the mother is on a long bus journey somewhere and the baby is crying? I know for snooty types like yourself Susan it is hard to imagine being on public transport with common folk, but just imagine for the sake of argument.  So what would you rather have ? A wide-awake, yappy, little demon spawn or a content little bundle of joy eased back into dreamland by the natural milk of his mother's breast? |
Bingo, James! Likely I'd not be traveling on public transport unless I were traveling and wanted to get a touch of the native flavor! {{{{Okay, I'm imagining it....this is tough but it's coming to me...}}}} Yes, I can imagine! I'm on a crowded train bouncing along through the countryside. Scrunched up next to me, with her brood of runny-nosed tykes, I see a nursing mother. Isn't that quaint! I might even whip out my digital camera and take a discreet photo. Must be careful to keep the camera out of view though as I'd not want to fight off her little thieves!
Now see how you've made me yearn to travel again! I haven't been to Old Europe in such a long time. Yearn, yearn.  Tee hee. If you only had known me during my La Leche League years when I was a major proponent of breastfeeding! I still am, by the way, but would not have done so in a public setting. I'm not sure breastfeeding does all the group used to claim it would do in terms of protecting the child from all disease and giving them super-power IQs but somehow it makes sense to me especially in the first 6 months of life. Susan
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