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1. Wednesday, December 6, 2006 6:15 PM
Raymond E-Coli in Taco Bells-Heads Up Fast Food Enthusiasts


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E-coli in New york/New Jersey/ Pennsylvania Taco Bells. many people sick , some in the hospital. I ate at one last Thursday-ya can't beat that place for a cheap meal once in a while--Stuff is like .99 cents or 1.59 US . First it was the packaged spinach I used (from California) a month ago, now this. Anyway guys , you might forgo the Bell for awhile- I can't see myself going there again period. Don't know if the franchise is in Europe or Australia.

 

More L.I. Taco Bells Close Due To E. Coli Scare

Officials: 3 New Cases And 26 Others Showing Symptoms

(CBS/AP) MINEOLA Two more Taco Bell restaurants were closed on Long Island for cleaning on Wednesday amid an outbreak of E. coli bacteria that may have sickened more than three dozen people in Nassau and Suffolk counties and dozens elsewhere around the country.

Nassau County Executive Tom Suozzi said at a late-afternoon press conference that officials have confirmed three E. Coli cases and were investigating an additional 26 cases of people showing symptoms. In Suffolk County, officials reported one confirmed case on Wednesday, bringing its total to 12.

Three patients in Nassau County remained hospitalized; at least one remained hospitalized in Suffolk.

One of the Nassau residents hospitalized with symptoms of E. coli had eaten at a Taco Bell restaurant while vacationing last month in Naples, Fla., but health department officials said Wednesday afternoon that the case has not been confirmed as E. coli.

Since the outbreak was first reported earlier this week, 10 Taco Bell restaurants on Long Island were ordered closed, but eight have since reopened after workers decontaminated the sites and discarded the food. The two restaurants closed for cleaning Wednesday were in Seaford and New Hyde Park.

Suozzi said the Seaford location initially balked at closing but complied after being contacted by Taco Bell corporate management. Health officials said the restaurants could reopen late Wednesday or Thursday after a thorough cleaning.

Also Wednesday, Taco Bell ordered scallions removed from its 5,800 U.S. restaurants after tests suggested they may be responsible for the outbreak.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_340175839.html

 
2. Wednesday, December 6, 2006 11:01 PM
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I wish we had a Del Taco or Taco Time near us!  Sigh.  I'm going to stay clear of Taco Bell, though I usually don't crave a Mexi-Melt all that often.

We are fortunate to have the fabulous close-by Bronco Burrito, Las Fuentes, not to mention Sol y Luna with excellent genuine Mexican food. 

Not to be too gross but don't you get e-coli bacteria from human feces in your food?  Uh, how might that happen?  Lots of ways.  I don't buy my vegies if they're grown in Mexico because I've heard the farmers there do not have convenient Andy Gump porta-potties at the workers' convenience.  The same may be true in the US but I rather suspect it is better policed by the health departments of the various states.  None of which says anything about washing ones' hands after using the bathroom when you work at Taco Bell.

FEH! 

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3. Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:12 AM
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E. coli also comes from animal feces, which is why they tell you to cook your ground beef through to a certain temperature in case there was any bowel spillage at the slaughterhouse. That's what caused the E. coli breakouts at Jack In the Box back in the 90's. The reason ground beef has to be cooked through as opposed to steaks is because the bacteria live on the surface of the meat. Since steaks aren't ground, the bacteria only live on the outsides of the meat and will be killed during the normal cooking/searing process. With ground beef you're screwed because during the grinding process, all the exterior surfaces now get ground up and become one big amalgam of possible bacteria carrier. So. No medium-rare burgers, folks!

Produce can get contaminated in any number of ways, from unclean worker hands to tainted animal manure used to fertilize the fields (if manure fertilizer has been properly processed, that shouldn't happen. However, some people suck and are cheap). If that squicks anyone out, I suggest washing all your produce thoroughly before eating anything raw. There are a few non-toxic food-grade soaps out there that will do the trick (and lots of hot water, I might add). I'd suggest buying hydroponic produce when possible, but I don't know whether or not it's possible to contaminate plants via the water they're fed. (I know water can be contaminated by any number of bacteria, I am just not sure if the plants absorb the bacteria into their cells along with the water or if the bacteria is too large for that too occur)

Susan, I'll mail you some Del Taco. Although like you, I prefer to eat at the good authentic mexican food places; granted we can only guess as to their cleanliness sometimes, but feh. I haven't gotten sick yet and that works for me. Thank god that living here in California gives us plenty of options.

Taco Bell always gives me various cramps and bloats anyhow. I don't know that I'd even be able to tell you if I got E. coli from their food. I wonder how many people will experience "symptoms" and believe they've been struck by E. coli, only to find out it's just from Taco Bell's crappy food?


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4. Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:20 AM
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We used to go there when we were in college, then I heard about the cockroach invasion at the taco bell, and well, that did it for me. Haven't been since.


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5. Thursday, December 7, 2006 4:12 PM
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"Taco Bell always gives me various cramps and bloats anyhow. I don't know that I'd even be able to tell you if I got E. coli from their food. I wonder how many people will experience "symptoms" and believe they've been struck by E. coli, only to find out it's just from Taco Bell's crappy food?   "

 

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6. Friday, December 8, 2006 10:02 AM
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Aha, I knew my secret trick of avoiding Mexican grown vegies was on target!  The Taco Bell offending e-coli green onions have been traced to a California company BUT they were grown in Mexico. 

Often I'll see a box of oh, say, asparagus at Costco and it says "Product of California" but underneath it says "Grown in Mexico."

Pass.

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7. Friday, April 6, 2007 4:41 PM
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OK, so you avoid Taco Smell, you avoid Chef Puck and his top tier offerings, You keep your eyes peeled and if you see rats running wild you go eat someplace else. Fine.

Now , if you go to the supermarkets to buy provisions for your kitchen --beware- walk past that Peter Pan peanut butter !!  Careful, to the moms who want to make their little kids a peanut butter and jelly sandwich after school ! :

 FDA: Recall shows peanut butter flaws

By JOSH FUNK, AP Business Writer 1 hour, 3 minutes ago

OMAHA, Neb. - The       Food and Drug Administration said Friday it will increase the frequency of investigations at plants that make peanut butter and similar products, saying this year's salmonella outbreak showed peanut butter is riskier than health officials had thought. said Friday it will increase the frequency of investigations at plants that make peanut butter and similar products, saying this

 

All Peter Pan and Great Value peanut butter that ConAgra Foods Inc. made at its Sylvester, Ga., plant was recalled in February after health officials linked the product to a salmonella outbreak that has sickened more than 400 people nationwide.

"Up until this point, peanut butter has not been considered a high-risk food," said Dr. David Acheson, chief medical officer of the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. "We now know peanut butter can be a vehicle for salmonella."

Acheson said peanut butter will almost certainly move up on the FDA's list of high-risk foods, and the agency bases its inspection schedule on the relative risk of foods. He said peanut butter is not likely to knock fresh produce off the top of that list, because the risks are highest with foods that don't get cooked later.

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Acheson said he believes other peanut butter makers have been watching the situation closely.

"I would be pretty certain that every other peanut butter producer is having the same thought we are and is paying a lot of attention to it to make sure that it doesn't happen," he said.

Officials at Unilever, the company that makes Skippy peanut butter, say they have been monitoring the FDA investigation at ConAgra's plant.

Officials at Smuckers, which makes Jif peanut butter, did not immediately return calls Friday. The company's offices were closed for Good Friday.

Acheson said the basic process used at all peanut butter plants is similar. They all bring in raw peanuts, roast and grind them, mix and blend them, and put the product in bottles or cans.

"It's a call to all of us to be thinking about if it can happen in the ConAgra plant in Georgia, why couldn't it happen in some other peanut butter plant? And I think the answer is it could," Acheson said.

The explanation for the salmonella outbreak ConAgra officials offered Thursday fits with what the FDA found, Acheson said, but it doesn't answer all the questions about the illnesses. The government investigation has not been completed.

ConAgra spokeswoman Stephanie Childs said the company traced the salmonella outbreak to three problems at its Sylvester, Ga., plant last August.

"We know that this is the most probable cause of the contamination of those jars," Childs said.

The plant's roof leaked during a rainstorm, and the sprinkler system went off twice because of a faulty sprinkler, which was repaired.

The moisture from those three events mixed with dormant salmonella bacteria in the plant that Childs said likely came from raw peanuts and peanut dust.

The plant was cleaned thoroughly after the roof leak and sprinkler problem, but the salmonella remained and somehow came in contact with peanut butter before it was packaged, she said.

The first illnesses linked to the outbreak of this strain, called Salmonella serotype Tennessee, happened in August, Acheson said. Problems at the ConAgra plant in August can't explain those first illnesses because it takes about 90 days for peanut butter to reach stores after it's made. Most of the illnesses happened later.

Acheson said it's possible some contamination happened before August, but the investigation probably won't be able to determine that.

"We do know that in a plant environment like that when you get moisture in there it makes it worse," Acheson said. "That's a logical explanation for why we suddenly saw it get significantly worse around that time of year.

"Whether it's the sole explanation, I don't think we'll ever know," he said.

Childs said it's possible that some of the people who became ill with the Tennessee strain of salmonella encountered the bacteria in a way other than by eating peanut butter.

ConAgra will do a complete renovation of the plant and develop new testing procedures, Childs said.

"We want consumers to have 100 percent confidence in our product," she said.

FDA officials will decide whether to pursue any sanctions against ConAgra after its investigation is done, Acheson said.

"It doesn't automatically follow that a company, just because they had a recalled product that made people sick, did anything wrong that they could have done differently and did it deliberately," Acheson said.

The FDA last inspected the ConAgra plant in 2005 and did not find any problems.

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8. Friday, April 6, 2007 5:01 PM
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Sure, salmonella. It has nothing to do with peanut butter completely disproving evolution does it, FDAtheists?

 

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