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| 1. Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:08 PM |
| nuart |
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That is the question. I prefer giving public servants the benefit of a doubt so rarely afforded them as I know how political enemies can distort reality. But I wonder why Sandy Berger had to secretly remove material from the National Archives. I really really wonder what the motivation and what was in the material. Here's a piece a few days old from Roger L Simon on Sandy Berger. In case anyone cares. I have not yet moved into Roger's camp but I haven't read the PDF file yet. Backlogged on my reading material these past few days.
Susan December 22, 2006 Sandy Berger - a rumination I didn't sleep well last night. Part of the reason was I was in a hotel room in a new bed, but the other was Sandy Berger. I was up late reading the PDF file of his investigation we posted this morning on Pajamas. Everything we had heard about him was true - and more, possibly a lot more. I kept tossing in my bed, trying to puzzle out what kind of man behaves in the manner he did. Surely, a coward - but a coward of a special sort. The more you read of the file the more you realize that there are many unanswered questions about Berger's behavior that the government has not chosen to disclose (if they know). We cited some obvious ones with the PJ post, but so much of the file has been blacked out, there may be whole areas not yet imagined. What interests me here, however, are not the facts (I don't have the sources for that), nor even the nearly obscene leniency of his sentence. (After reading even the redacted version, I can't believe this man will have his security clearance back in three years. What judge allowed that?) No, what interests me is Berger the man. What manner of moral reprobate could act they way he did after some three thousand people were murdered by Islamist terrorists. No doubt the inner Sandy has a raft of rationalizations, varied ways of justifying his criminal behavior to himself whether he was defending his own actions or Clinton's or both. (It would be interesting to know, wouldn't it?) Perhaps Berger is even sophisticated enough (though I suspect not) to reference EM Forster's famous dictum: "If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country." But the problem is - Berger wasn't just betraying his country, he was betraying real, living human beings, past and potential victims of terrorism. As we learned on 9-11, it doesn't matter what country they come from. It is a betrayal of humanity as much as it is a betrayal of our country (though of course it is that.) So "Pants" Berger is a coward of a special kind - a character out of a novel, something for a modern Tolstoy perhaps, a refined species of modern narcissist. He can also be looked at as an example of another highly-reviled category - traitor. I don't use that word loosely at all either. I don't regard Cindy Sheehan, for example, as a traitor or Michael Moore or any of those people, much as I disagree with them. They have vigorously espoused their opinions in a free society. Sandy Berger smuggled top secret documents out of our National Archives. We may never know what that was about, what was in them (or in their notes) or why he did it. He is a traitor. They are not.
“Half a truth is often a great lie.” Ben Franklin
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| 2. Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:30 AM |
| Raymond |
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I have admittedly only scanned the PDF but I have read other reports on the Berger case. We know the 9-11 commission had to play with a marked, incomplete deck. One would have to bend over backwards, drink a quart of kool aid, suspend all logic and misread what is there and elsewhere to come up with any non incriminating explanation for this slime bag thief Berger. We must guess at the certainly damning notes, memos and reports this bastard stole and destroyed..Information that aside from incriminating him and others could have been valuable as information for the future defense of the nation and probably the rest of the free world. He did not steal items that portrayed him and his crew as a tireless, intelligent sentinel of our national security. That is for sure. I always avoided placing any blame on any administration, agency or individual regarding 9-11. I will make an exception in the case of this dangerous bastard Sandy Berger. Oh and just for insult added to capital injury, in a few months Burgler will again be allowed lone access to the security archives he looted. Unbelievable.
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| 3. Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:10 PM |
| Raymond |
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Like I said : Press ReleaseDid the 9/11 Commission receive all the documents it requested? Davis Releases Berger ReportJanuary 9, 2007 By David Marin (202)225-5074 Washington, D.C. – Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Berger’s theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Berger’s document removal can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive documents to which Mr. Berger had access. “My staff’s investigation reveals that President Clinton’s former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security much more than originally disclosed,” Davis said. “It is now also clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience. “The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken without detection. “We now know that Mr. Berger left stolen highly classified documents at a construction site to avoid detection. We know that Mr. Berger insisted on privacy at times to allow him to conceal documents that he stole. One witness with a very high security clearance believed he saw Berger concealing documents in his socks. “Mr. Berger’s review of documents did not conform to the usual requirements for reviewing classified documents in a secure facility and under strict supervision. The Archives staff’s failure to contact law enforcement immediately and their contacts with Mr. Berger about the missing documents compromised the law enforcement effort. “The compromised law enforcement effort contributes to reduced confidence that the 9/11 Commission received all the documents it requested. The execution of a search warrant before Mr. Berger knew there was an investigation would have either located additional documents or enhanced confidence that he stole no others than those he admitted to taking. “The public statements of the former chief of the public integrity section, Noel Hillman, were incomplete and misleading. Because Mr. Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken without detection, we do not know if anything ‘was lost to the public or the process.’ “The Justice Department’s assertion that Mr. Berger’s statements are credible after being caught is misplaced. One wouldn’t rely on the fox to be truthful after being nabbed in the hen house. But the Justice Department apparently did.” ______________ __________________- ____________ Comment added 01/10/07 : Dem, Independent, Repub, Atheist, American, European, Australian, Etc., Socialist, apolitical, Communist, Conservative, Liberal. Why is this dirtbag Sandy Berger, enemy of us all, not in prison long time?
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