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1. Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:25 PM
12rainbow Marilyn Manson's new video


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http://74.52.167.50/media/vid.html

Want to see MM humping his new girlfriend, Evan Rachel Wood? I didn't, either. It's pretty much just a showcase that MM is an ageing pederast and she's easily led.

The song itself has no balls at all, and it looks like all the man has going for him anymore is his ability to get young girls in the sack.

 
2. Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:08 PM
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  Mr. Manson, your 15 minutes are up... never really that much of a fan, partially because I'm old enough to remember Bowie & Alice Cooper in their heyday. Alice was good for about 5 years, pretty much over after the original AC BAND dissolved.  Anyway, kinda surprised that you're so judgemental on this one.  Firstly, I DESPISE the term "ageing". Do you mean "old"?  Who of us is not ageing?  Unless you're a cyborg, I do believe the clock is tickin' on ya.  Wood is 19, a consenting adult & if she wants to swap bodily fluids & sweet nothin's with Mr. Corroding Sexbot... This is the guy who lost Rose & Dita (whoever left, whatever...). Women dig rock stars. Deal with it. Oh, didn't look at the vid. Not really commenting on the content. Just kinda amused by the shock of this being an age difference thing. My dad was nearly 25 years senior to my mom, so it's part of my history/DNA.  More discussion?  

 
3. Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:32 PM
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QUOTE:  Just kinda amused by the shock of this being an age difference thing. 
See, she's 19 but looks 14 (this is exploited in the video.) He's 38 but looks like he's about 80. Do what you want behind closed doors, but it's truly repulsive for everyone else to look at.  Did I not commend him for still being able to pull tail?  My disgust (god forbid, MM shocks anyone) is from the overall visual of seeing the two of them in flagrante delicto

 
4. Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:51 PM
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I don't understand why she would want to get involved in s'thing like this.  Can't be for credibility.  Most offensive of all... the song sucks!


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5. Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:27 AM
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Yeah crap song. I'd like to see this one, in flagrante delicto

Dita...I f*cking love you


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6. Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:18 AM
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QUOTE:I don't understand why she would want to get involved in s'thing like this.  Can't be for credibility.  Most offensive of all... the song sucks!

  Well, let's see, I guess she's in it cuz  Manson's her boyfriend...?  And I did watch most of the vid. Thought she looked plenty "of age" (lotsa makeup, classy clothes, fine, she was sportin' Sue Lyons Lolita shades, whatever...) & without all the pancake "Marilyn" nearly looked like Bryan (ie. nearly human), somewhat presentable & hardly "80".  The only MM recordings I own are the LH tracks. The strongest cuts  I've heard from them are covers & even they are interesting mainly for the novelty of the approach.   Not musically a fan of this bunch, but hardly think the "pedophile" angle is the offense here, but rather the endorsement of reckless driving.

 
7. Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:11 AM
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Hehe, ive done that with Marilyn Manson.  And by that I mean hump, not drive dangerously.

It was a long time ago.


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8. Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:04 AM
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Don't know what you are talking about - I thought it was sweet and tender!

Song's keek too!

(And to think I used to defend him - looks like he does "like the drugs and they like him" so much it's affected his capabilities).


I hope they cannot see / The limitless potential / Building inside of me / To murder everything / I hope they cannot see / I am the great destroyer

 
9. Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:21 AM
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QUOTE:

Hehe, ive done that with Marilyn Manson.  And by that I mean hump, not drive dangerously.

It was a long time ago.


 Really??? I hope you were of age!


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10. Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:36 AM
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QUOTE:
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Hehe, ive done that with Marilyn Manson.  And by that I mean hump, not drive dangerously.

It was a long time ago.


 Really??? I hope you were of age!

 

In Britian I was, if it had happened in the USA, possibly not!

I would like to add in my defense that I am not a rock star shagging groupie. It was just a very bizarre evening, which in 4 days will be the 10th Anniversary. Now I feel old.

 


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11. Monday, May 21, 2007 3:55 AM
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You didn't get the car ride too? Shame...

I'm amazed that Marilyn Manson has managed to keep going so long (ahem.. no pun) with such meagre talent.

So do teenage girls buy his records? 


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12. Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:52 AM
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I don't think he's put out an album in quite some time.  I was never a Manson fan musically, but I liked some of the movies he was in, particularly The Heart is Deceitful...  I don't particularly find this video offensive or anything, but the song is sort of lame.  Far worse has been say, anything Brittany Spears ever released, so...

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13. Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:09 AM
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No way can you call Marilyn Manson untalented. I'd rather he was in the charts than loads of other stuff. I'm in the UK. Surprised there is someone on here above who says she's been intimate with MM when she was 18! I've added you loola on myspace, like your photo you look great!

I liked Disposable Teens v much and the Holywood album, if not Blair witch 2! (sadly, because I liked the first one and wished the whole B witch thing had been carried on better than it was...)


 
14. Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:12 AM
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tp3! Sorry i accidentally pressed 'deny friend' on myspace, i have requested you as a friend now, oops!


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15. Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:56 PM
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Yeah crap song. I'd like to see this one, in flagrante delicto

Dita...I f*cking love you


Did Dita nick her hoo-hoo? lol

After some rethinking, what made me roll my eyes about the Heart Shaped Glasses vid was that it totally seems like it's directed at Dita- and maybe other male fans. As if he's saying, "Look, I know the classiest burlesque/fetish babe ditched me for being immature, but- look: hard evidence teenagers still want me! So, eat it, b*tch!" All mid-life crisis jokes aside (because I'm sure they have a lot in common, like killing their brain cells) the display is just very 'bitter ex' of him.

Ha, loola! I know a few girls in my school from age 15-17 who did the groupie thing with him, too!  Now that he has old balls, the Lolita thing is probably not far from the truth!

 
16. Monday, June 11, 2007 9:46 AM
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Dunno if this phrase translates across the pond but over here we have a saying 'I'd like to leave her like a painter's radio'. which the lovely Dita is so kindly illustrating for us in that pic 


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17. Monday, June 11, 2007 11:25 AM
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T.M.I.


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18. Monday, June 11, 2007 12:04 PM
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Manson was scoring with 15 year olds? I hope he was like 18 or 19, that does mitigate somewhat , but if he was older that would indicate a predeliction for underage girls- one step above child rape and Namgla stuff. I suppose you can be a 'big' rock star "man" with a little lightly used inexperienced middle school-high school girl. Perhaps a full grown young woman like Dita Von Tease or that replacement chick from " Charmed' may have been too much for him?  And what is he now ? pushing close to 40 ? That pederast label may or may not fit. IMO.

 

 
19. Monday, June 11, 2007 4:23 PM
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It was the Antichrist  Superstar tour so he would have been in his mid-twenties.  

I dated Twiggy's ex's ex when I was 17 in NY, but that probably doesn't count.

"Painter's radio," eh?  You mean you want to make her the spunk toast?   Oh, this thread has taken a turn for the tasteless.

 
20. Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:01 AM
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17 in New York just makes the cut. That charmer Joey Buttafuocco got charged for a tryst that occurred before Amy What's her name turned 17.  And in some southern/ border states- like West Virginia- they turn a blind eye to mid teen couplings. They often lead to a pressure to get married. That approach has it's history in old economic necessities. Marry young , raise youg'uns to work the fields. ( or the mines, i suppose.) Second cousins are normal and " fair game" although first cousins are not actively encouraged. An old rocker Jerry Lee Lewis had a 13 year old girlfriend that was his first cousin. I think they got married-not sure. Laws change by state. There is no Federal law which is fine with a states rights type like me. The Feds would get envolved only if the minor was taken across state lines.

Like the old joke: " This is Betsy, she's my wife, my daughter, and my cousin."

 
21. Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:05 PM
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It's been more than six years and I'm still bored with Marilyn Manson.

January 31, 2001

Marilyn Manson Now Going
Door-To-Door Trying To Shock People

OVERLAND PARK, KS--Stung by flagging album sales and Eminem's supplanting him as Middle America's worst nightmare, shock rocker Marilyn Manson has embarked on a door-to-door tour of suburbia in a desperate, last-ditch effort to shock and offend average Americans.

Above: Manson knocks on a door in Grosse Pointe Farms, MI.

Accompanied by bandmates Twiggy Ramirez, Madonna Wayne Gacy, and Zim Zum, Manson kicked off his 50-city "Boo" tour Jan. 26 in Overland Park, a conservative, middle-class suburb of Kansas City.

"When we first laid eyes on Overland Park, with its neat little frame houses, immaculately landscaped lawns, and SUVs in the driveways, we couldn't wait to swoop down on it like the Black Death," said Manson, born Brian Warner in Canton, OH. "We were like, 'Welcome to our nightmare, you bloated, pustulent pigs.'"

Last Friday at 4 p.m., Mark Wesley, 46, a resident of Overland Park's exclusive Maple Bluff subdivision, heard the sound of "animal-like shrieking" coming from the vicinity of his front lawn. Upon opening his front door, he was greeted by the sight of a pale and shirtless Manson carving a pentagram into his chest with a razor blade.

"Look at me, suburban dung," Manson told Wesley. "Does this shock you?"

When Wesley replied no, he said Manson became "petulant." Recalled Wesley: "He started stamping his feet and shaking his fists, saying, 'What do you mean no? Aren't your uptight, puritanical sensibilities offended? Don't you want to censor me so you don't have to confront the ugly truth I represent?' So I say, 'Well, not particularly.' Then, after a long pause, he says, 'Well, screw you, jerk!' and walks off sulking."

That evening, Linda Schmidt was preparing to drive her daughter Alyssa to a Girl Scouts meeting when she found Manson standing on her porch draped in sheep entrails.

"I knew who he was, but I was kind of busy and didn't really have time to chat," Schmidt said. "He just kept standing there staring at me, expecting me to react in some way."

Added Schmidt: "I tried to be nice and humor him a little. I said, 'Yesiree, that sure is some shocking satanic imagery, no doubt about it. And that one eye with no color in the pupil, very disturbing. I'd sure like to suppress that.' I mean, what do you say to Marilyn Manson?"

A deflated Manson remained on Schmidt's porch as she and Alyssa drove off.

Subsequent attempts to provoke outrage were met with equal indifference.

"[Manson] was standing at my front door wearing those fake breasts he wore on the cover of Mechanical Animals," retiree Judith Hahn said. "He said, 'My name is Marilyn Manson, and I'm here to tear your little world apart.' I thought he was collecting for the Kiwanis food drive, so I gave him some cans of pumpkin-pie filling."

Undaunted, Manson and his entourage stepped up their assault on mainstream American sensibilities. On Tuesday, they arrived in the tiny Detroit suburb of Grosse Pointe Farms, where stockbroker Glenn Binford answered his doorbell to find Manson hanging upside-down on a wooden cross as Ramirez performed fellatio on him.

"I just stood there thinking, now there's a boy who tries way too hard," Binford said. "I mean, come on: Homoerotic sacrilege went out in the late '90s."

Other provocative acts by Manson--including dismembering a chicken, bathing in pig's blood, and wearing a three-piece suit of human noses--failed to arouse anyone's ire, instead prompting comments such as "sophomoric," "trite," and "so Alice Cooper."


Above: A dejected Marilyn Manson ponders his next move.

Manson's lone brush with controversy occurred in Edina, MN, a suburb of Minneapolis. An unidentified neighborhood-watch volunteer phoned police after seeing a nude, feces-smeared Manson being led around on a leash by a dwarf dominatrix. Officers arrived on the scene, but let Manson go with a warning for parading without a city permit.

"I could have given him a citation, but I figured, how much harm is he really causing?" Edina Police Officer Dan Herberger said. "I mean, he's just Marilyn Manson, for the love of Mike."

The "Boo" tour was dealt a further blow when Manson learned that Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP had been banned from all Kmart stores. Manson's current album, Holy Wood (In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death), is still available.

"Why are all you people outraged by Eminem? He's not scary!" Manson said. "He doesn't sport ghoulishly pale skin or wear gender-bending make-up. He's just some regular guy. I'm the one who people should be terrified by, not him! Me!"

"If you ban me," Manson continued, "I promise to rail against censorship and hypocrisy. Please? Pretty, pretty please?"

By Monday, the tour appeared to have lost all momentum. Sources close to Manson described him as "exhausted and discouraged," despite not having even completed the first leg of the three-month tour. By the time he arrived in Hoffman Estates, IL, Manson had resorted to leaving flaming bags of dog feces on doorsteps and shining a flashlight under his chin to make himself look "spooky." He was ultimately chased from a Hoffman Estates subdivision by a group of bicycle-riding teenagers who advised him to "get [his] chalk-white goblin ass" out of their neighborhood.

On Friday, Manson is slated to appear in Bethesda, MD, where many believe he will bring his tour to a premature end.

"Have you people forgotten already?" Manson told The Washington Post. "You all thought I was responsible for Columbine two years ago. Well, I was! I was! I know I vehemently denied it at the time, but, really, I personally told those two kids to shoot up the school. I'm serious. I sent them an e-mail. And I told them to worship Satan, too. You hear that, kids? Marilyn Manson says you should shoot your friends in the head with a gun! And everyone should eat babies! And rape their dead grandparents! And poop on a church! There, now will someone please be offended?"


 


     
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22. Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:38 PM
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Me, too, Susan.  He's about as edgy as the D&D nerds that patronized the comic book store I worked at.

I'm torn on sexual consent laws. I undertand young people shold be protected from unwanted sexual attention, but only the individual knows when they're ready to do the deed- or fall in love.  Canada probably has the right idea (age 14) and I know Jerry Lee Lewis and his second cousin/wife would've agreed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America

 
23. Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:33 AM
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I looked up the "killer": it was evidently his FIRST cousin and she was 13. Southern gentleman that he was he waited til she was past 12 for the marriage.  Yes, I support the states setting these things. There are cultural differences and a Federal limit would not get my vote.

Hmmm 12 year old first cousin huh? Maybe Jerry knew what he was doing. j/k The event did damage his career by the way.

I meet my first wife at 17 and married  her at 18. But I was only 20. And she came from 3 thousand miles away and was not related to me - completely different ethnicity.

Side question: is it geneticly preferred to have children from young ovum and seed or from 50 y o guys and 40 something women? Just asking a question, no agenda here at all folks.

 
24. Friday, June 15, 2007 5:33 AM
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25. Friday, June 15, 2007 6:19 AM
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On the sex offense front, there is a case in Florida where a 17 y o had oral sex with a 15 y o.  Under a law designed to get true sex offenders he got a ten year sentence. The case is being reviewed and that guy should be set free -he has already done over 2 years ! That is just two teenagers, he should have just gone home, but he is not a sex offender.

 

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