This is probably a silly question, but I was under the impression that Leyland was poisoning Sarah on the nights that he planned to abuse Laura.  Do you think thats true? Doesnt he give her a mug of milk or something on the evening before we see BOB rape Laura? Could it have been drugged? Surely otherwise Sarah would hear the cries of her daughter? Or was she really just ignoring the fact that it was happening?  Was she on medication that would help her sleep anyway?

Its all pretty vague in my mind admittedly (i have lent my DVDs to a friend so cant watch em!)

Yeah, Leland was poisoning Sarah. Right before Maddy is murderd, we se Sarah crawl down the stairs and she feels very dizzy. Then she sees a white horse ("white horse" = heroine), and falls asleep.

After Coop & Co. have solved the case, Cooper are telling Sarah right before Leland's funural that he was giving her drugs so she wouldn't notice what he was doing. 

Both Laura and Sarah were drugged or drugged themselves in order to close their eyes to the horrible truth. To me, it isn´t so important weather Leland did this or not.

Ditte 

The movie makes it clear that she was aware she was being drugged, making her at least silently complicit in the rape of Laura. This is much more disturbing than what it seemed like in the series.

Yea, I think it's in the movie where we see Sarah drinking the milk Leland brought her and she stops drinking but Leland lifts the glass back up to her lips.

There's also the symbolism of a white horse being the horse Death rode on. So like a lot of things in Twin Peaks it could have dual meanings. 

 

I don't think Sarah was aware that she was being drugged... In the film she begins to drink the milk, stops and Leland insists, that's a plot device to show us he drugs her, not that she knows. I think there's a similar scene in "Lost" and other places...

Now, it's obvious that she was completely blind about, as she puts it in the series, what was going on in her house; we see that in the dinner scene. She probably *knows*, sees the mood changes in Leland, notices something not quite right in her daughter, but is in denial...

You're talking about interpretation. Maybe that was the intent, but, from what's on the screen, it is not reasonable that Leland would just insist that she drink some milk, for no reason. I like to believe she couldn't deal with it, and so she allowed herself to be drugged, it might have been subconscious.

The movie does seem to present both parents as being more culpable than the series does.  Sarah strikes me as being more aware of Leland's dangerous mood swings in the movie and there is a sense that her marriage is a lie she can't bring herself to face.

The movie does show us the Palmer family life. Sarah must have suspected something, and she was obviously very afraid. She was just mentally broken by Leland, too weak to resist, and the drugs gave her an easy escape.

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Cooper clearly says, in episode 17, "your husband went so far as to drug you to keep his actions secret."  Can you really dispute this? 

In my opinion, the notion of the white horse in any way symbolising or suggesting heroin needs to be put to rest.  There is nothing in the show or the movie that indicates Palmer heroin use.  What's more, it seems more likely that the horse is some sort of spirit that comes to Sarah once she's been drugged.  The use of the black lodge inhabitant spotlight effect would seem to support this, in my mind.

Also, Loola, by "poisoning," do you mean intending to kill or harm?  I think that is how it is usually meant when one is said to poison another.  I think that "drugging," as others have used it here, is a more accurate term because I doubt that Leland or BOB wanted to harm Sarah through the act.  In fact, if they did want to harm her, I think something a little more violent than poisoning would be the preferred method, given the track record.  :)

I´m sure she meant "drugged". Just a language thing. I could have made that same mistake too...

In my opinion, the notion of the white horse in any way symbolising or suggesting heroin needs to be put to rest.  There is nothing in the show or the movie that indicates Palmer heroin use.  What's more, it seems more likely that the horse is some sort of spirit that comes to Sarah once she's been drugged.  The use of the black lodge inhabitant spotlight effect would seem to support this, in my mind.

Also, Loola, by "poisoning," do you mean intending to kill or harm?  I think that is how it is usually meant when one is said to poison another.  I think that "drugging," as others have used it here, is a more accurate term because I doubt that Leland or BOB wanted to harm Sarah through the act.  In fact, if they did want to harm her, I think something a little more violent than poisoning would be the preferred method, given the track record.  :)

Ah yes, I definitely meant drugging rather than poisoning, for sedation purposes only. :)
 

Uh Loola. Btw I´m sorry. I don´t even know where you´re from. Just me, taking pride in protecting the new members

Ditte 

Uh Loola. Btw I´m sorry. I don´t even know where you´re from. Just me, taking pride in protecting the new members

Ditte 

In my opinion, the notion of the white horse in any way symbolising or suggesting heroin needs to be put to rest. There is nothing in the show or the movie that indicates Palmer heroin use. What's more, it seems more likely that the horse is some sort of spirit that comes to Sarah once she's been drugged. The use of the black lodge inhabitant spotlight effect would seem to support this, in my mind.

Hard street drugs also don't seem the style of either a suburban dad or an evil spirit (BOB never gave Laura drugs...) and I may not party like I used to but- who puts heroin in people's drinks?  Rohypnol or GHB, maybe. 

I've posted this on the old board(s) before but still think it's a valid point: Lynch is no stranger to Jungian symbolism. A white horse in a dream can symbolize "a meeting with our feelings about death" (Tony Crisp, Dream Dictionary)  Either Sarah's psychic nature is telling her that death is near or she's slipping into a death-like sleep.  Trying to fight off the effects of sleeping pills and the like  can cause your brain to do some weird sh*t.  

The Celts (relevant to TP because of the Glastonbury thing) revered white horses for superstitious reasons (Something about the goddess Epona and a white horse.) It was a symbol of power in war for the Anglo-Saxons, especially King Alfred. Maybe the horse is a lodge spirit that protects Sarah when BOB is doing his nasty business. (We only see it twice, but it seems reasonable that BOB would drug Sarah, turn on the ceiling fan, go outside and re-enter through Laura's window.)

Leland was part of the underground sex scene in Twin Peaks.  Fire Walk With Me visually implies him meeting Teresa Banks via her Fleshworld advert (did he also encounter both Laura's and Ronnette's ads as well?).  The drug trade is an integral part of that subculture so we could assume that Leland had some opportunity to encounter it.  The proprietress of Hap's Diner in Deer Meadow states openly that Banks was a drug user and since she was Leland's mistress he may very well have obtained drugs through her.