Hi everybody.

I don't wish to offend anyone or stir up controversy by bringing up this delicate subject. But after having been introduced to information I was previously unaware of, I find myself having to share this information with as many people I can.

I ask that you to approach this with an honest and open mind. Consider the implications if it is true and look at what is happening in the world right now.

Please take the time to look at the information by checking the videos and sites I link to. If any of the links to the videos don't work, just search for the titles on YouTube or Google video.

Whether you look at the information or not, and regardless if you believe any of it or not, please pass the links to these sites and videos to as many people you can and ask them to do the same.
My way of doing this is to post messages like this on as many forums I can find on the Internet in order to reach all kinds of different people. I encourage everyone to do the same.

I watched the documentary "Loose Change" the first time over a year ago and was startled by the information it presented, but I basically told myself that what the documentary was suggesting was too unrealistic. And besides, I said to myself, there are conspiracy theories about everything these days.

In the last couple of months I have found out that the "9/11 truth movement" is not just some kind of crazy Internet cult or people screaming "911 was an inside job" with bullhorns in the streets, which the mainstream media seems to want to make them out to be.

There are many different action groups consisting of professionals from different areas that belong to the "9/11 truth movement". For instance "Scholars for 911 Truth & Justice" http://www.stj911.com and "Pilots for 911 truth" http://pilotsfor911truth.org.

The most important group though, I think, is "Architects and engineeres for 911 truth" http://www.ae911truth.org. This group currently consists of well over 400 professional architects and engineers (and growing very rapidly) who are publicly calling for a new investigation into 9/11. Their findings and publications should be known to every person in the world, especially Americans, but of course mainstream media disregards them completely for whatever reason. This group has studied the official 9/11 Commission report and FEMA and NIST reports, looked at the video evidence of the collaps of the buildings at World Trade Center, applied scientific methods and concluded that the collaps of the 3 buildings in New York could not have been caused by fire as the official reports claim.

Please check out their web site and what they have to say. Remember, these are professionals who know how tall steel framed buildings are constructed. They have put their jobs on the line by even being associated with this topic. Some have already been fired.

Prof. Steven E. Jones, Ph.D., Physics has examined the dust remains from the collapsed buildings. Here is a presentation he gave on february 23rd this year (part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHy6WtrnTRw. This is extremely important information with huge implications and consequences. He has published several papers on his findings which you can find online.

To get a full picture of everything that is wrong with the official explanation of the events on 9/11, please watch Loose Change. "2nd edition" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM and "Final Cut" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk7htWPF874.

Dr. David Ray Griffin is a professor of philosophy of religion and theology. He has made many interesting presentations about the flaws of the official 9/11 explanation, for instance (part 1): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCe5yZ_MNHk.

Many prominent politicians and intelligence officers, such as former German Member of Parliament and Government Defence Minister Andreas von Bülow and former CIA analyst of 27 years, Ray McGovern are convinced that the attack was carried out by rogue elements within the current US administration. US Arizona Senator Karen Johnson has called for a new investigation in the US Senate.

The core of the 911 truth movement consists of widows and family members to those that lost their lives that tragic day, as well as fire fighters, police, first responders, rescue workers etc. You can watch a documentary called "The 9/11 Chronicles: Part One, Truth Rising" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-yscpNIxjI about how the tragedy has affected these people and how poorly they are treated by the city of New York today. 70% of the questions from family members of 9/11 victims were never answered in the official 9/11 investigation, 50% of the family members believe that 911 was an inside job.

All of the above seems to be just the tip of an ice berg. A growing number of people are waking up to the possibility that it was an inside job but most of the public are still completely unaware of all the unanswered questions, mysteries, contradictions and distortions of truth that the official 911 explanation gives.

In New York City there is now a citizens attempt to create a new investigation into the events of 9/11 through the "ballot initiative" process. This would be an independent investigation with congressional subpoena power. Efforts to get the needed 100.000 signatures is now in process. As of August 7th they have collected about 25.000 signatures. Signers and witnesses to the petition must be registered New York City voters. So if you or anyone you know is eligible to sign the petition, please do what you can to help. Go to http://www.nyc911initiative.org to find out more.

The public has to be informed that all this information exists. They are not going to get it from the corporate media as things are right now. By using the power of the Internet everyone can share this information around the world while remaining anonymous (most people just ridicule the subject, others are afraid to bring it up). The more people that have this information, the more people there will be that are brave enough to voice this issue publicly in the mainstream media and to our political leaders. The rest of the people that have been informed will be there to back them up instead of ridiculing, calling them "unpatriotic" or simply looking the other way.

A new investigation is absolutely essential!

I thank you.
Sincerely,
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Lynch's Gazette account spotted!

ps Bush did 911

Logic Hat Online- logichat.org

LogicHat:

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Lynch's Gazette account spotted!

ps Bush did 911"

LOL! No I am not David Lynch (I wish I was!).

Seriously though, I am not really interested in speculating about who did it or not, that's something for the experts to do. What I want is that as many people as possible, especially americans (and especially especially New Yorkers) become aware of http://www.nyc911initiative.org and all the unanswered questions and difference of opinion among experts (especially http://www.ae911truth.org) regarding the official explanation as to what happened.

Were you aware of this information I linked to, LogicHat?

Would you be willing to simply posting links to these sites and videos to others? 

Oh boy, I'll bet this is REALLY an exciting discovery!  The TRUTH? 

Groundhog Day.

Susan (the Secret is safe with me)

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

"Harry, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it, don't wait for it, just let it happen. Could be a new shirt at the men's store, a catnap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee. Like this."  -Dale Cooper

Thank you Booth. No 911 is not a joke, it's the most important event of my life and I think yours as well.

Have those of you that instantly flamed me for this taken the time to look at the information I linked to?

If you can't even take the time to go to http://www.ae911truth.org I guess I'll have to post what they are saying!

This is a group of over 440 professional architects and engineers that have studied the official explanations of the WTC collapses, looked at the video evidence and heard what first hand witnesses say, and come to the conclution that the official explanation doesn't make sense. They are only calling for a new independent investigation where all their questions will be answered and all their evidence will be examined. Here is their assessment of the twin towers collapse:

"As seen in this revealing photo the Twin Towers' destruction exhibited all the characteristics of destruction by explosions: (and some non-standard characteristics)
 
1.  Extremely rapid onset of “collapse”
2.  Sounds of explosions and flashes of light witnessed near the beginning of the "collapse" by over 100 first responders
3.  "Squibs", or focused explosions, 40 floors below the “collapsing” building seen in all the videos
4.  Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete and steel decking, filing cabinets & 1000 people – mostly to dust
5.  Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
6.  Vertical progression of full building perimeter demolition waves
7.  Symmetrical collapse – through the path of greatest resistance – at nearly free-fall speed — the columns gave no resistance
8.  1,400 foot diameter field of equally distributed debris – outside of building footprint
9.  Blast waves blew out windows in buildings 400 feet away
10.  Lateral ejection of thousands of individual 4 - 20 ton steel beams up to 500 feet
11.  Total destruction of the building down to individual structural steel elements – obliterating the steel core structure
12.  Tons of molten metal found by FDNY and numerous other experts under all 3 high-rises
13.  Chemical signature of Thermate (high tech incendiary) found in slag, solidified molten metal, and dust samples by Physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.
14.  FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
15.  More than 1000 Bodies are unaccounted for — 700 tiny bone fragments found on top of nearby buildings
 
And exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
 
1.  Slow onset with large visible deformations
2.  Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, intact, from the point of plane impact, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3.  Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4.  High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never “collapsed”
" 

Physicist Steven Jones has analyzed the WTC dust. He discovered traces of thermate which is an incendiary used in controlled demolition. This is direct evidence that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolishion he says! Here's part 1 of 6 of one of his presentations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHy6WtrnTRw

Why is this not important? Why is this not the headlines in mainstream media?

When a large group of professionals and experts claim that they have evidence that the official explanation on how the WTC collapsed is incorrect, does that not warrant a new investigation??

If anyone of you care, just a little bit, about this or feel that the original 9/11 investigation was unsatisfactory, please pass on this link to other people http://www.nyc911initiative.org

Stop sh*tting up the forum and go away.

No, I have not taken the time, because I have already seen most of it.

Some of it is nonsense.  Some of it has merit and is not being further investigated in the public eye for reasons that are unfortunate.

I am prepared to believe pretty close to any depths of deception and self-interest on the part of the current White House crew, so I am your target market in that sense.

That doesn't change how infuriating it is to have a new person sign up specifically to post screeds about 9/11 in the first place they find -- you got this far without seeing Current Events?  It doesn't change how bewildering it is to see them fail to understand why they aren't being welcomed.

The problem is not that your ideas are too sophisticated or radical for us, the problem is that we're a reasonably polite community and you just drove through it ranting with a bullhorn.  I liked it when Alex Jones did it in Slacker, but you, sir, are no Alex Jones.  You're a sidewalk preacher, a Johnny One Note, and that's the problem.

Ignore buttons were invented for people like you; thankfully, around here we mostly don't need them.

PS to Booth: Get up, get, get, get down

x-ray
if your back's against the wall, turn around and write on it...

Listen, The Bush administration could have never pulled off 9-11. 

Here's why:  THE PLAN WORKED!!!!!!

Jordan .

If I posted on the wrong board or violated forum etiquette, I apologize.

I realize I should have named the thread "Is a new 9/11 investigation needed?" instead. Some people take offense, I can see that.

"Sidewalk preacher"?

I guess I'll have to accept that because of what I was asking, but I see a big problem when important information like what I posted (ae911truth.org and nyc911initiative.org) not being covered in mainstream media. That could mean that people will miss it entirely, and that shouldn't be the case. I'm also concerned when people immediately attack someone for bringing up this topic even though there is merit for discussion. Again, maybe it was my approach. If so, my bad.

"... you just drove through it ranting with a bullhorn."

That's odd. This was one of the problems I was trying to address, because almost everything one sees of the "9/11 truth movement" or people calling for a new investigation, are people yelling "inside job!" with bullhorns in the streets. I was trying to point out information and people that shouldn't be instantly dismissed and provided links to back up my claims. 

I am glad that you are informed about most of the information I pointed to and that you find merit in having a new investigation. My question to you is this: We that have this information and are of this opinion, should we just stay silent and wait for other people or events to (hopefully) lead to an investigation? Especially when there is a process like the "9/11 ballot initiative" in NYC under way, which needs a large number of signatures from regular citizens to succeed?

"Questions to us" from you will not be regarded with any kind of seriousness.

Google "9/11 Message Boards" and join a discussion.

No one here cares about your cause.  You're wasting your time- and ours- here.

1. It may very well be.

2. I can't believe I have posted twice on this thread.

C. How can this person be so dense?

"Harry, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it, don't wait for it, just let it happen. Could be a new shirt at the men's store, a catnap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee. Like this."  -Dale Cooper