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Black Lodge Question

7 posts

No. 1

tynkerbelle

Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:20 AM

In episode 29, I know that the people that Cooper believes to be Laura, Maddie, Leland, etc. are just dopplegangers that have been put there to instill fear in him. But my question is, does your soul need to have passed through the lodge in order for your doppleganger to be there? For example, could Audrey or Shelley or Bobby have dopplegangers in the Black Lodge even though they have never passed through it?

No. 2

12rainbow

Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:18 PM

I think so

No. 3

JFK

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:15 PM

i dont think so

No. 4

New Shoes

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:44 PM

Hawk:

"Legend says that every spirit must pass through there on the way to perfection.

There, you will meet your own shadow self."

I assume that goes for anyone confronting the Black Lodge.

Gettysburg, day one. The South is winning.
No. 5

12rainbow

Thursday, September 18, 2008 5:49 PM

Hawk refers to the Dweller on the Threshold and the Bardo Worlds, taken and modified by Theosophy from Buddhism. Everyone who dies, which is everyone, has to pass through these levels (read The Tibetan Book of the Dead, which Cooper quotes as he ushers Leland "into the light.")

So it's likely everyone's shadow self is always there, waiting.  

No. 6

tynkerbelle

Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:06 PM

Thanks for the clarification guys. I'm kind of leaning more towards 12rainbow's theory though. Eventually, everyone will pass through the Black Lodge, and if there is no real sense of time in the Lodge, (i.e Cooper and Annie communicating with Laura before she died), then everyone would be there right? That's what I'm starting to think.

No. 7

JFK

Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:27 PM

i was kind of thinking that the shadow self is made, generated, during the firewalk. it doesnt "exist"(which is a highly speculative word here) in the lodge until one gets to the point of meeting it.