Yeah, yeah, yeah everything's subjective.  Except if you casually dismiss some of civilization's near constants (i.e. respect for human remains) and replace that with some philosophical cogitating from a college textbook, little by little the framework of a society changes.  (yeah, plasticization does sound like same sex marriage...)

When in doubt, I think a modicum of reverence is probably more, rather than less, desirable.  The human casing that once housed a familiar essence does not immediately lose its lifetime of associations just because the spirit has left the premises.  

Oh well, I always say there's a reason people don't live longer than a century or so.  The amount of change in that span of time is just about all a body can absorb.  The hyperspeed of this century's change has my head reeling and I've still got a few decades to go.  I expect much of the terrain to be unrecognizable going forward on this bullet train of life.

Susan

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

More like "God damn distorting of posts." 

Smooth move, ExLax.

Susan

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

TMZ thickens the plot...

Jackson/Rowe Not the Biological Parents

Posted Jun 30th 2009 10:00AM by TMZ Staff

We've learned Michael Jackson was not the biological father of any of his children. And Debbie Rowe is not the biological mother of the two kids she bore for Michael. All three children were conceived in vitro -- outside the womb.

Multiple sources deeply connected to the births tell us Michael was not the sperm donor for any of his kids. Debbie's eggs were not used. She was merely the surrogate, and paid well for her services in the births of Michael Jr. and Paris.

In the case of Prince Michael II (the youngest), we're told the surrogate was never told of the identity of the "receiving parent" -- Michael Jackson. Three days after Prince was born at Grossmont Hospital in San Diego County, Jackson's lawyer came to the hospital to pick the baby up and deliver him to Michael.

We do not know if Jackson chose the sperm or egg donors or if he even knew who they were.

Although Rowe is not the biological mother, it's not a slam dunk that she would lose a custody battle. This type of case has never been litigated in California courts. Since Rowe was married to Jackson when Michael Jr. and Paris were born, there's a presumption that she's the biological parent. That presumption can be rebutted by other evidence.

We know there are documents outlining the whole arrangement for the birth of all three kids. Nonetheless, it's still an open issue with the courts.

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

~ Amanda

"Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave..."

In my mind a dead body belongs to no one but it's previous owner, and if they want to sign it over for art, science, or Uncle Dudley's Travelling Circus, Sideshow & Necrophelia Fest that's no one's business but them and their family. I plan on making arrangements to donate my remains to science or medical research. By then it'll be old rotting meat that I no longer have any use for. What do I care?

"What? Did your life pass before your eyes? Cuppa tea, cuppa tea, almost got shagged, cuppa tea..."

OK... I didn't think I would be posting on this MJ thread.

However,there is some freaky stuff going on now there in his er um  wake.

, the children that MJ played daddy with. All in vitro ( no dna from him; unknown male or female sperm/egg  provider(s), using surrogate(s),.

MJs creditors will be attempting clawbacks, What a mess that MJ estate is.  Creepy Daddy Joe J.

Coming ...Graceland West ?

Jamie Foxx way overexposed lately. 

Denise Richardson colon it's complicated

Ben:  "We've laid in a gala reception for your fair-haired boys tonight.  All of Twin Peaks' best and brightest."

Jerry: "We're holding it in a phone booth?"

~ Amanda

"Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave..."

Ah   the chick did a movie with Nev campbell I think.....

Above    Edit: s/b... Richards ...

 Goldblum delivers his own eulogy:

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin