I mean it's fun, but think about it.  Twin Peaks was originally a dark mystery series about a teenage girl murdered in a small American town.  That's what Twin Peaks was really about IMO. 

I totally agree. I don't mind some of the mysticism if it really enlightens you as to things that actually matter in the real world. I like BOB, because you can come up with theories about him that have more value than just 'TV mythology', you can speculate whether he's the dark part of Leland's psyche and whether there's a part of Leland that is good. (For example, if there was someone who had a brain disorder that made him have psychopathic fits at certain times, I don't think you would say he was an evil man. What does it take for you to be wholly defined by that evil?) It's interesting. Whereas, the Lodges stuff is just, Good v Evil, Black v White. It's facile. That doesn't mean it isn't frustratingly complex in the show, just not in a good way (like the complexity of BOB).

Well, personally I love both sides of Twin Peaks, the crime mystery and the bigger mythology... First we have a simple question, who killed Laura, then once we know who, Leland, and how he ended doing it we still have the "why", where does BOB come from? What is his purpose? Are there others like him? And what about the other spirits, the apparently 'good' ones?

Until ep.16 Twin Peaks was, among other things, a murder mystery, yes, but then it changed to something else, the Lodges were introduced, etc. It's all part of it... And no, the show was never about a girl getting killed and the investigation, but about good vs. evil, black vs. white, fear vs. love, and that right from the beginning... It's not called "Twin" for nothing...

It's a nucleus of chaos in a thing that was otherwise immaculately structured.

I think of it as the law of entropy in thermodynamics, which is especially appropriate since Lynch came up with the Red Room while leaning on the warm hood of a car in the Snoqualmie region. It started with slow, lingering moods. Many dramatic possibilities had been explored, and supernatural possibilities hinted at. Then Little Nicky, Evelyn Marsh, and many silly inane shortcuts were taken. Why should it all resolve into sameness, instead of exploding into something completely new?

i dont know, man. id rather talk and/or read about the lodges than about how high you were when you last watched TP or how funny you think it would be if cooper had a hitler mustache. but thats just me.

I feel the lodges play a significant and important in TP. It is a part of the whole mystery. There were so many questions at the end of the show that I find the theories discussed on this board very interesting. But that's my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm right.

i dont know, man. id rather talk and/or read about the lodges than about how high you were when you last watched TP or how funny you think it would be if cooper had a hitler mustache. but thats just me.

 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !  JFK, you are amazing!

Being high watching TP seems to be a very popular thing... Gotta try that some day... Then again, maybe not...

Being high watching TP seems to be a very popular thing... Gotta try that some day... Then again, maybe not...

 

It's overrated. Getting high confuses the mind and makes the stupid very amusing. Anything that requires an attention span is pointless to watch high.

Now Northern Exposure is far more suited to ripping bongs to.

Just last night I watched the episode where the Mummenschanz visit town and Ed has visions of characters from Fellini films... Sometimes are the shows and not their viewers who get high...

While being very high does ruin concentration, watching TP high made me notice things I'd never noticed before, like Bobby flirting with Heidi in the diner.

What really doesn't work though is watching something on salvia.  I tried watching episode 2 on salvia but I just couldn't, the patterns were too distracting.  I would recommend salvia for listening to music though; it's a wonderful experience.

wtf is salvia?

. Anything that requires an attention span is pointless to watch high.

 I couldnt agree more.  I would be lying if I said, I hadnt watched Peaks or other Lynch movies under the influence.   Some of the visuals and wacky character's might be amusing to a certain extent, but to really get into his stuff, your mind has to be there 100%. 

salvia is a hallucinogen

I think it's recommended (if such a thing is possible) to watch TP high when you've already seen it many times and understand it or refuse to... Watching the whole thing for the first time while being in the sky with diamonds, now *that's* an experience that sounds nasty...

Duuuuuuuuuudeeeeee, that fisheeeeeerman just found a dead chiiick.... Groooooovy...

Way to stereotype, Gordon.

Yes, salivia is like DMT. Both are mild hallucinogens- not as mild as pot, and far more intense, but the effects are only about 30 min. It can be scary, and I've seen people get retarded on it. Not a social drug unless you're into making a complete ass of yourself.

Pot numbs me to the very very important melodrama of TP and I am far more likely to laugh at all of Donna's scenes.

I don't know why, but my experiences with salvia have gotten more intense with every trip I've had.  My last trip I couldn't stop chanting "Phalenjmatuaphelguru," cos' if I did the little waltzing paperclip men wouldn't let me out of the trip.

But yeah, they can be scary, especially when the furniture in front of you suddenly becomes a road full of houses full of inter-dimensional beings that won't let you in even though you're freezing, and you have to keep repeatedly going around the houses, shouting for them to let you in.

Pot numbs me to the very very important melodrama of TP and I am far more likely to laugh at all of Donna's scenes.

 I laugh at Donna when I'm sober personally.  Oh James!!

I liked the whole thing about the lodges though since this is what the thread is about.  It was a cool twist on the show when it was kinda pooping out.

I agree actually, the Lodges storyline compensate for the massive fuckup on the part of the studios for killing the Laura Palmer mystery halfway through season 2.

And I also find Donna quite funny.  I was hoping for some sort of scene near the end of season 2 where Doc Hayward ties her up and spanks her.

And I also find Donna quite funny.  I was hoping for some sort of scene near the end of season 2 where Doc Hayward ties her up and spanks her.

case in point.

sort your life out wizard.   i mean that in the nicest way

LOLOL

Someone on the internet telling me to "sort my life out."  Wow, clearly someone doesn't understand the internet...

LOLOL

Someone on the internet telling me to "sort my life out."  Wow, clearly someone doesn't understand the internet...