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No. 1

mr. silencio

Thursday, April 13, 2006 8:43 AM

Here's my chart for the movies which I consider the best in Kubrick's whole filmography:

  1. THE SHINING
  2. 2001: A SPACE ODISSEY
  3. FULL METAL JACKET
  4. EYES WIDE SHUT 
  5. BARRY LYNDON
  6. LOLITA
  7. DR. STRANGELOVE OR HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE BOMB
  8. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
  9. PATHS OF GLORY
  10. THE KILLING

What about you?

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

No. 2

smeds

Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:19 AM

The Shining, 2001: A Space Odessy, and A Clockwork Orange.  Thay are pretty much tied.  Altough I do like A Clockwork Orange slightly more.

No. 3

crabalocker

Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:30 AM

Although David Lynch is my favourite all time director I think Kubrick is possibly the best. The yardstick to judge all others...

1. 2001

2. A Clockwork Orange

3. Dr Strangelove

4. The Shining

5. Lolita

6. Spartacus

7. Eyes Wide Shut

8. Full Metel Jacket (1st half is as good as anything he has done, 2nd half was a bit disappoiting)

9. The Killing

I think their the only ones I've seen, would love to see Barry Lydon though.

"Hindsight is 20/20"

me in bw

No. 4

crabalocker

Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:38 AM

I saw 2001 on a 70mm print on a huge screen and it blew me away. It really is one of those films that deserves the big screen treatment. Although loads of peeps are bored () senseless by it. I love the way it divides people/critics right down the middle, just like Mr Lynch!

"Hindsight is 20/20"

me in bw

No. 5

crabalocker

Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:16 AM

I don't remember Odessy being abstract, at least not in it's presentation. I don't like analysing what I see and experience too much, and it seems to me that's what Kubrick invites us to do. 


 I too don't like to analyse what I see, I just like to let it wash over me and leave me with a feeling. Sorry to disagree with you but, I find 2001 very abstract, especially the 'beyond the infinite' sequence which you can read/experiance in any way you like. Like I said Kubrick has a knack of dividing people!!

"Hindsight is 20/20"

me in bw

No. 6

mr. silencio

Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:27 PM

The way this thread is developing explains how 2001 is still the most talked about Kubrick movie. And I like to say it's not one of my favorites.

Personally, I think it is wonderful in cinematography and even all the designs and special effects. I agree with the fact that it's a kind of movie that grows on you emotionally, just like The Shining or Eyes Wide Shut. I think this is a sort of trilogy dealing with man's impossibility of putting together more than one vision and, most of all, explain things in a cold and rational way.

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

No. 7

smokedchezpig

Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:04 PM

Arthur C Clarke aint too bad...but then again I am not a big sci fi reader. The extent of my sci fi reading is the first 3 books of the 2001 series. The first 6 books of the Dune series, a little Issac Assimov and of course numerous reading of the Hitchhikers series by the late great Douglas Adams. I found reading 2001 brings a clearer understanding to the "Beyond The Infinite" section of Kubrick's film, but then again it might just be me.

My tops for Kubrick are as follows.

1. Dr, Strangelove: Perhaps the greatest dark comedy ever made.

2. A Clockwork Orange

3. The Shining

4. Paths of Glory: one of the greatest war (or anti-war) films ever made. That last scene with the German girl singing is just too f-ing awesome

5. 2001: A Space Odyssey

6. Lolita

7. Barry Lyndon

8. Full Metal Jacket

9. The Killing

that's it for me.

"Every day holds a new beginning and every hour holds the promise of an Invitation to Love." 

No. 8

crabalocker

Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:30 PM

'beyond the infinite'

That's the final sequence, right, crabalocker?

Yes, that's pretty abstract.

I always disliked the artifacts and the monkeys. And I think Arthur C. Clarke is a lousy sci-fi writer.

Have you read any of that Rama stuff of his?


 Yep, the final third, often known as the stargate sequence.

I read way too much Sci-fi as a kid, and Clarke was one of the worst. The 2001 books are relly, really bad and with every volume they got worse. I think the Rama stuff was ok,for him anyway!

smokedchezpig, you may like this quote from the brilliance that was (sobs ) Douglas Adams:

" I loved 2001, went to see it 6 times, then I read the Clarke book and found that he dwelled on all the bits I was not interested in, and left out all the bits of the movie I loved "

Adams on Asimov (whom I love) "His ideads were great, but I would not employ him to write my junk mail!"

I could not agree more with the late, great Mr Adams.

Finally, the stargate and red room sequences are possibly my 2 favourite audio/visual experiances yet encountered. I love 'em!

"Hindsight is 20/20"

me in bw

No. 9

crabalocker

Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:35 PM

1. Dr, Strangelove: Perhaps the greatest dark comedy ever made.


 i have no doubts, the greatest dark comedy ever. Everone dies and I laugh my pants off.

Greatest black comedy gag ever = "Gentlemen, You can't fight in the war room!"

"Hindsight is 20/20"

me in bw

No. 10

mr. silencio

Friday, April 14, 2006 12:44 AM

CCC, I don't get what you say.

Maybe because I don't speak English as good as you...so I could miss some nuance of your tellings, I don't know.  I just wanted to say that I put 2001 in the second place because, artistically speaking, I think it's one of Kubrick's best even though it is not one of my KUbrick's favorites. Got it?

For what's rational and not, I absolutely agree with you. I think those 3 films DO NOT take place in the rational universe, that's all.

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

No. 11

smokedchezpig

Friday, April 14, 2006 5:44 AM

Aw, CCC, that was so sweet of you to apologize for your abhorrence of fiction, since you know I have penned a few novels in my time. My sci-fi reading was really young in life. I think I might have been no older than junior high when I read 2001, mebbe younger. I agree with Dougie that Kubrick did use all the best parts. Now what's all this talk about these special editions? Wasn't The Stanley Kubrick Collection enough? Although, I do have the 40th anniversary edition of Dr. Strangelove which is very sweet indeed.

"Every day holds a new beginning and every hour holds the promise of an Invitation to Love." 

No. 12

ig0r

Friday, April 14, 2006 3:39 PM

i have only seen clockwork orange, the shining, eyes wide shut and full metal jacket so far.

i think i like clockwork orange and eyes wide shut equally. did anyone else think full metal jacket wasn't that great (except for the scene where leonard goes insane in the bathroom)? 

No. 13

Laura was a patient of mine

Saturday, April 15, 2006 3:02 PM

I love 2001, Dr. Strangelove, and the Shining, but I thought Clockwork Orange was terrible. It certainly wasn't because I was disgusted by the violence, or anything like that. I just think that it's way overrated, and really not that good. I don't know what Kubrick was trying to do, but he should have known better. I don't know why anyone even knows about it anymore. The book is far, far, superior. The movie has some good bits though, and a strong lead performance.

That god damn trailer's more popular than Uncle's Day in a whorehouse!

No. 14

mr. silencio

Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:22 AM

I totally agree with Laura was a patient of mine. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE constitutes a sort of vacation from the wonderful productions that Kubrick made earlier and later. But it remains a wonderful, astonishing movie... maybe an European eye is much closer to the vision which is portraied in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

No. 15

nuart

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:25 AM

Sunday night we had a small group over for dinner. One person was new to the group. He made an astounding suggestion toward the end of the evening. He said he thought the time was ripe for a...

REMAKE OF ... A CLOCKWORK ORANGE!!!

Yes, I felt the same way. He thought it was particularly "relevant" today. I asked why? He answered something about society and lack of choice.

I told him it was a surefire way to get publicity although the cinephiles of the world would tear such a filmmaker limb from limb. He said, oh, no, most young people have never heard of the film and a remake would be a good way to introduce it. After he left we had a lot of fun imagining a recasting of A CLOCKWORK ORANGE and who might direct it and score it. What changes might be made to make it more "relevant" to today.

Anyone agree that a remake of A CLOCKWORK ORANGE is a good idea?

Susan

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

No. 16

Maj. Briggs

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:32 PM

I haven't heard of some of these movies. But I have seen Dr. Strangelove and 2001. They are two of my favorite movies, but I have to pick 2001 over Strangelove. It's really hard to compare them, Dr. Strangelove is a slapstick comedy, 2001 is a film with profound (though purely hypothetic) theoiries. As in, Kubrick knows that aliens did not cause the evolution of the human race, but he likes the idea and wanted to put it on film (also that machines can somehow develop feelings). But I'll never forget Dr. Strangelove fighting with his arm not to make the Nazi sign.

I have many different tasks, but the one that most interests me is the study of UFO's.

No. 17

nuart

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:54 PM

It's perfect, and changing the setting with the ridiculous seventies fads etc. would only make it less hilarious.

I really tried coming up with something, but nope. What did you yahoodies come up with, Susan?

We were thinking Michael Bay as the director and perhaps a comeback for McCauley Culkin revamping Malcolm McDowell's Little Alex role. Maybe Lindsay Lohan for one of the rape victims, and Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins as the parents. Dim = I suggested John Candy but he's dead. Then I thought of Chris Farley but he's dead. And then I came up with John Belushi. Well, we haven't cast Dim yet...

Oh, and the score has to be a John Williams composition! Also, in order to make it more contemporary instead of Ludwig van, we might want to update it with the works of Yanni.

Are you sick yet?

Susan

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

No. 18

smokedchezpig

Monday, April 24, 2006 11:19 AM

Well, Susan that was ripping good fun to come back too. I can just imagine your reaction to such a suggestion as if the remake of Manchurian Candidate wasn't enough. And no I still haven;t seen it.

Thoughts on the Clockwork remake...nice choices on the parents...I might consider casting the 21st century Keanu Reeves (which is Paul Walker in case you didn't know) in the lead role but the only way that would work if they changed the music from classical to the works of Eminem.

"Every day holds a new beginning and every hour holds the promise of an Invitation to Love." 

No. 19

mr. silencio

Monday, April 24, 2006 12:09 PM

Maybe not a total remake, just an adaptation to our times... Here's my fancy.

"ANTHONY BURGESS' A CLOCKWORK ORANGE"

TERRENCE MALICK... DIRECTOR 

Starring

EWAN MCGREGOR... ALEX

VINCENT D'ONOFRIO... DIM

TIM ROBBINS...ALEX'S FATHER

GRACE ZABRISKIE... ALEX'S MOTHER

WILLIAM HURT ... PRISON CHAPLAIN

SAMUEL L. JACKSON... P.R. DELTOID

MARTIN SHEEN  JULIANNE MOORE ...FRANK ALEXANDER AND HIS WIFE 

ANJELICA HUSTON... CATLADY

MIRANDA RICHARDSON.. NURSE FEELEY

JACK NICHOLSON... DOCTOR

STEVE BUSCEMI... POLICE INSPECTOR

PHILIP BAKER HALL... TRAMP

WILLEM DAFOE... CHIEF GUARD BARNES

MALCOLM MCDOWELL... MINISTER

Of course this is an unrealistic all-star cast. One can only dream....

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

No. 20

smokedchezpig

Monday, April 24, 2006 12:48 PM

You know what, Mr Silencio, if this wasn't a remake of an unremakeable film, I would say you have done an excellent job casting this proposed flick.

"Every day holds a new beginning and every hour holds the promise of an Invitation to Love." 

No. 21

mr. silencio

Monday, April 24, 2006 2:14 PM

Grazie! By the way, I didn't say this is a possible remake. It could be a second film that is more inspired by the novel than by Kubrick's first adaptation of the novel....

Just like it happened for Dracula - Coppola's Dracula videoclip-like movie compared to Murnau's Nosferatu king movie of expressionism, there was no intent to emulate the original movies by Murnau or maybe Herzog's (which I find inferior); Coppola's movie was just another thing.

I know there's a lot of other movies like this, taken from books, that were remade recently and were equally good just because centering more on the book analysis than on movie quoting. I just don't remember them now

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

No. 22

Laura was a patient of mine

Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:37 PM

Actually the Kubrick movie was very close to the book script wise... they just managed to mess everything up (except Alex; the only truly satisfying part of the book). Watching the movie actually feels longer than reading the book.... the only thing they left out was the ending; which, admittedly, gives the story a whole different meaning.

That god damn trailer's more popular than Uncle's Day in a whorehouse!

No. 23

smokedchezpig

Friday, April 28, 2006 5:40 AM

Good point, Laura...That is one thing I have noticed about Kubrick. He is perhaps the only director I know of and enjoy that repeatedly changes the source material in his screenplay, but with his finished products and their brilliance, I just don't seem to mind. Aaah....there it is my copy of A Clockwork Orange in between The Holy Bible (the weathered copy that mum gave me as a kid which means it's pushing 30) and The Importance of Being Earnest and Other Plays by Oscar Wilde....thought I had a copy of it. I did a book report in high school psychology (from a list which included it, Sybil, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and stuff of that ilk. I even think 1984 and Brave New World were in their too) So, I did mine on Clockwork and luckily got to read the book before I saw the movie so I could compare and contrast properly.

"Every day holds a new beginning and every hour holds the promise of an Invitation to Love." 

No. 24

mr. silencio

Friday, April 28, 2006 7:03 AM

The thing is that word is word and  image is image.

So, a movie will never be like the book. It can't be the same thing, just picking the idea and transforming it for the cinematic world and it's not sure of the good result of it. 

Movies are meant to be the most concise possible, while literature is dispersion. One has to accept this truth and never expect a film be the exactly the same.  Kubrick has totally changed the structure and also the content of many books to make them work on the big screen. So I guess change is the most succesful way to portray literature in a movie.

"Did they scoff the whole damn Smörgåsbord?" (Audrey) 

"Gimme a donut!" (Coop)

No. 25

littleotik

Friday, August 4, 2006 6:59 PM

My favorites to date

 1) The Shining - better than the book- Jack's best crazy lines & faces - I know every shot by heart- Soundtrack sells it

2) Clockwork Orange - better than book also - so many wonderful images to another beautiful soundtrack

3)2001- his photographical masterpiece

4)Full Metal Jacket - soo anti-war  - distrubed me as much as Salo... no, not that much- they should show this in school, before the recruiters get there

5)Barry Lyndon -As good as the book- I just love this cocky, not so bright, ambitious Barry - it all ends too sad though

6)Paths of Glory-antiwar- courage is a large theme- overlooked treasure

7)Dr. Strangelove - real funny stuff- George C Scott is my fav, but Mr.Sellars shows off his chops-better than book because of these preformances

8)Lolita -not better than the book, sorry, still better than any remake since

9)The Killing - fun little flimnoir flick, ahead of its time, pulp fictionlike - good cast

10)Eyes Wide Shut - A look into the lives of cruel beastlike folk exploring fantastic sexual orgies-Yes I liked this one too,but not enough,it had such a nice build up, but not enough payoff

11)spartacus- the studio had to much control here, kind of like his Dune-too long- over acting-does not showcase much Kubrick ideas or visuals-still is a very big epic- fans of the era should enjoy

12)Killers Kiss - First flick leaves alot to be desired - not memorable- little replay value-thats all I got for this one        

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