"Harry, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it, don't wait for it, just let it happen. Could be a new shirt at the men's store, a catnap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee. Like this."  -Dale Cooper

Is there genuine proof that Frank raped Jeffrey in Blue Velvet?

I am curious as to what happened to what you might make of Chet Desmond and where he went to...?

Any thoughts too on Sheriff Cable, perhaps?

 Yes - A deleted scene has Jeffrey waking up after Frank beats him up after the joy ride - He has the words 'fuck you' written on his leg in lipstick (no pants on ) and he walks off with a noticible limp, like he's having trouible walking. Unfortunately all deleted scenes are lost so there are none on the DVD - only still photo outtakes. I read this years ago in a magazine but I forgot which one - anyone out there remember this ?

Since Chet Desmond was a dream Dale Cooper had he just disappeared when he touched the ring on the ground - Chet Desmond is Dale Cooper in Cooper's dream. See Wrapped IN Plastic magazine #60

Obviously, he went to the black lodge. And thus, his own anus.

~ Amanda

"Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave..."

very witty

When you say pants I presume you mean in the American sense for trousers. But if that was shown, it doesn't mean that Frank literally did rape Jeffrey. More simply it is just an attack on Jeffrey's self-respect and manhood. Frank has to assert his masculinity and strength and that is an extreme and perverse way of doing that.

Jeffrey limping does not mean too that he has been physically raped either, since he has just also been beaten quite badly. Although as in films he does seem to recover from this quite quickly, or at least we are not shown him recovering. But then I wouldn't exactly expect total realism in Blue Velvet I suppose due to its surreal nature.
 

I am very confused and delighted.

"It's not so bad as long as you can keep the fear from your mind." - D. Cooper

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer." - P. Atreides

"Whoever can see through all fear will always be safe" - L. tzu

One thing that escapes many viewers of this film that is especially prudent to mention here is the proliferation of semen as a trope throughout the film in a variety of real and metaphorical contexts.  This theme is prevalent in Jeffrey's and Dorothy's rape scenes in similar ways.

Dorothy calls semen a "disease" that men give her (by ejaculating into her) that makes them less crazy afterward (i.e., after sexual release).  Frank seems to refer to his ejaculate as a "love letter" that he will send (by ejaculating into the mail "box" of a "recipient"), which at once juxtaposes with the literal, benign meaning of mailed "love letters" and compliments Dorothy's interpretation of pent up sexual energy inducing insanity, fostering "disease," and being released or deposited "inside" another individual following climax.

When Jeffrey and Dorothy have their animalistic sexual encounter, it exposes Jeffrey to Frank's "disease" because of physical contact (i.e., with the walls of Dorothy's vagina that have in turn been in contact with Frank's penis and semen) as well as his traumatic emotional/psychological incentive to strike her in order for her to achieve her own climax--to "come," as it were.  It is significant that this moment of contagion immediately precedes the encounter with Frank and the boys in the hallway (clearly another vagina) and eventually the "joyride" (obviously a euphemism for the motions of sexual intercourse).  Dorothy believes that getting men to "come," or orgasm into her will make her happy, but, as I will show momentarily, it is not men but rather the robins who must "come" in order to restore happiness.

The lipstick similarly functions to convey the theme of contamination and infection, as Frank is likewise contaminated by his contact with Dorothy and wears her lipstick during his joyride lust/insanity (the lips, of course, proxies for the labia; painting them with lipstick affects a simulation of sexual arousal).  He kisses Jeffrey and leaves traces of the lipstick on his face, another symbol of contamination.  Finally, writing "fuck you" on his leg after the rape is both a reference to this "feminization" (including the visual similarity with the blood that would usually be found on the legs following anal rape) and a calling card or proclamation of the act that had been done--a reminder that the rape had occurred and that it, unlike so many things in the Blue Velvet universe, was in fact not a dream.  Jeffrey now has Frank's disease in him--both in the figurative sense of his insanity and violence and in the literal sense of having his ejaculate (and possibly that of Raymond and the others as well) inside his anus.

At the end of the film, Aunt Barbara, referencing the Robin who appears outside the window, says, "I could never eat a bug."  "Bug," of course, is another word for illness or disease.  In the new, idyllic world fostered by the destruction of Frank Booth, Aunt Barbara and others do not have to eat "bugs" or have "disease" put "inside" of them any longer.  The Robins have finally "come" (another ejaculatory metaphor), bestowing their own seeds of happiness over the previously nightmarish landscape.  Devouring the semen of the wicked preemptively, the robins ensure that the innocent, like Sandy, Jeffrey, and Dorothy and her son, are no longer forced to.

It seems quite reductive to view much of BV through the sexual act and 'come' - then tying that in with the robins since Sandy mentions their 'coming'.

As it is the film does not suggest that Jeffrey was anally raped by Frank, who is not portrayed as someone who finds men attractive.

I agree. He probably just gave him a quick wank and sent him packing.

Also, continuing with the FWWM=GAY thing, take the pole in the fat trout trailer park into consideration. That thing just shooting into the sky like that obviously represents a penis, what with the wires (jets of semen) firing out in all directions. Notice how Chet just stares at it in awe. Gayer.

And finally, in an interview i read a few years ago with Kiefer Sutherland, he was told that his character constantly works out the value of properties and their contents to keep his insatiable knob-thirst at bay. Just thought i'd let that one hang out there; no pun intended.

Rape isn't about attraction, man. It's about power. Frank says "I'll fuck anything that moves!" Do you really think "anything that moves" would be attractive?

And if you think the film doesn't suggest Jeffrey is the victim of an anal rape (or, as Visitor #1 from IE would say, a "BRUUUTAL fucking"), then you are ignoring the clearly demarkated signs that scream to the contrary... the semen on the wall, so to speak.

But I think Frank is actually attracted to Jeffrey, in that he envies his youth and innocence and his more 'normal' and loving vitality, as opposed to Frank's own distorted and violent passions -if you can call them that.

Seems to be an over-literal reading of the film that because Franks says he'll fuck anything that moves, he therefore has raped Jeffrey. You may aswell say that its obvious Frank and Dean Stockwell's character are lovers.

Is there ever any question?  OF COURSE they are!  Ben once was what Jeffrey is, the innocent, precocious boy corrupted by the sexual violation of "men like Frank."  Why else would Ben sing "A candy colored clown called the sandman [Frank and/or Frank's penis] tiptoes to my room [literally, his bed, or figuratively, his anus] every night, just to sprinkle stardust [semen] and he whispers ["I'll send you a loveletter, straight from my heart"] go to sleep, everything is alright."

Ben is resigned to his fate; he is the corrupted Jeffrey--what Jeffrey has to look forward to until the robins come [all over him].

Honestly, it's nearly impossible not to read Blue Velvet as an allegory of a bukakke gang bang.  I defy you to try!