Oh that is a nice website! Very good find, Herofix! Love the title of one of the entries down below - Barack Obama - Unelectable Bigot Part 1

I have to admit, after 8 years of Democrats screaming and hollering and gnashing their teeth regarding Bush's stupidity, the stolen elections, the immoral Iraq War, torture, Guatonomo Bay, and everything else, I am literally surprised by where we are today. You'd think that of all parties, the Democrats would be solidified and ready to ensure a Democratic victory in 2008. Instead, we have a massive infighting with the possible reality that a large portion of the Dem voters will stay home in November because they guy (or woman) didn't get in. Which begs the question....why?

Jordan .

CBS just made a campaign ad for Obama (or McCain if he needs it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BfNqhV5hg4

Jordan .

Hmm

Being 'economical with the truth' on one's CV is certainly not limited to Hellary however not everybody is applying for the most powerful job in the world!

Haha, that was good, James!  Hillary and I are the same age so I will allow that sometimes one's memory is not completely accurate when recalling past events.  But... the trauma of sniper fire isn't forgettable if it happened.  Having played a significant role in bringing about Irish peace accords may have more wiggle room if Hillary's private time with Bill was spent strategizing. 

You may remember (speaking of memory...) James, but I seem to recall having watched a speech by Trimble a couple/few years back and writing on the Gazette how impressed I was with him.  I'm going to have to backtrack and try to find what that was.  CSPAN?  Hmmm....  The bombs were exploding all around me, I was tied up, threatened by Cossacks and it's just too hard to remember this Trimble guy if it even was Trimble...

Susan 

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

haha thank you.
 

that was my point about the FL and MI voting that seems to be overlooked. she won effortlessly in those two states. i mean obama shouldn't be worried about a re-do then if he wasn't on the ballot right?!?! why not allow for a new vote with his name on the ballot and let her beat him fair and square!! that was my point to give it a go and then it'll be obvious who will win the nomination eh?  that is why hillary is still in the race due to these issues and the fact that she can still win or have a tie. which for my own personal pleasure it'll be interesting to see that happen. the whole process has been a surprise to me so far. susan, it already feels like an election eh?

thank you for the funny haha youtube urls. made me laugh to lighten this mess of a primary.

Hillary caught in a (cough) 'mistake' (cough) she made concerning Bosnia and her being under sniper fire. (I wonder if Lets knows it was Hillary who negotiated the Northern Ireland problem.)

Hillary goes on offense and says she would not have stayed in Rev. Wright's church. That keeps the Rev and his bile and his association with Farrakkan/anti Isreali-- Nation of Islam in the news.

Bosnia, Northern Ireland, NAFTA, SCHIP, tax returns, earmarks, donors, 'The Family', Iraq and not reading the NIE, bankruptcy bill, touting votes she cast on energy bills on her website that she then criticised Obama's vote for, FMLA, dog-whistling with Ferraro and Billy ('Jesse Jackson'), parsing words, attempting voter suppression in Nevada, claiming that she and McCain pass a 'Commander-in-Chief test', insulting states and demographics that don't favour her, crying on cue, not removing her name from the Michigan ballot, holding 'fund-raisers' in Florida on the eve of Florida primary, Peter F. Paul, hiring the loathsome Mark Penn, insinuating that Obama is somehow in charge of DNC convention procedures re: seating delegates (which I see Belladawna has bought into), somehow thinking that not having a clue about Pakistan's election and talking out her arse about it on television enhanced her 'experience' argument, playing the gender victim, attempting a dynasty, Walmart, rape victims........

I haven't even gotten to most of the right-wing talking points yet.

Hillary is poison for her own party.

Well, that is a more complete list of Hillary's "mistakes" and contradictions. Remember Hillary said she was named for Sr. Edmund Hillary-the only problem is no one knew who Sr. E. Hillary was until 1953 and Hillary was born in 1947. This one is just one more item that questions Hillary's judgement and honesty. 

That's right Hillary was a Wal Mart board member for many years. Whitewater, impossible futures windfall, travelgate, refusal to show tax records ....

H., you don't need to go to right wing sites, The Dems are in a mud fight-and yes, that does the party harm.

You have to laugh at 'I misspoke'. No Hillary, you were well and truly caught talking complete balls.

At least have the decency to admit it!

awe want some cheese with that hillary wine?!?!?

still ya know i wish all the candidates the best but despite said "issues" with her hubby, i would like and hope she wins. i mean it's odd how his personal issues with his zipper happy self are totally overshadowing her campaign... it's sad honestly ya know?  in this news article i read that the secret service people told her to walk with her head down and try to avoid the gunfire. gee, wonder what the problem there was besides the obvious eh?  it sounds so nit picky to me. all these candidates are sneaky but that is understood that's how the government s run. (sadly that is the sad hard truth of it). it's picking the less of the "two evils" at this point. also, funny how obama hasn't as much experience even to have any controversy in the papers over eh? at least we all know what hillary is doing since it's all over the place. i'd take knowing that over some candidate that is wishy-washy in his decision making abilities and not a peep about. as the old saying goes "it's the quiet ones ya gotta worry about"....

cheers and looking forward to reading all the news and posts on this......  thank you again for making me laugh

That's a good point, Belladawna.  By that rationale, Senator Clinton is an excellent candidate, perhaps second only to Larry Craig or Governor Spitzer in the 'at least it's out there in the news' category.  For all we know, Barack might have a black child!!1! LOLZ.......err, um, wait.

Dang, how did I forget about that one, Raymond?  In the meantime, I remembered such greatest hits as 'distort abortion record in New Hampshire last minute mailer', 'Plaigarism-Gate', 'Planting Crowd Questions', and my particular favourite, 'Kindergarten-Gate'.

La la la la la, la la la la la la la la la la!

I reckon I don't like her much.  If we see undercover footage of Barack sniffing coke with Tony Rezko and Reverend Wright, I'll think about being less biased. 

oh please with that hillary hating logic then we could nominate Micky mouse and have a loony tune type presidency eh? i mean really all people need to seriously get over  their issues with hillary. she's not mccain(thank god) and obama would be a good leader just not right now. maybe after her 4 or 8 years is all i'm saying. even better if her and him would team up. that's all i'm trying to say. love to hate this woman but i think she's the better  leader. i'm sure those undercover tapes of obama will surface like a marion barry type sting.. lalalalalalla

but until the meantime i'm still rooting with my logic for hillary. the less of the evils fer me.

Fair enough. I can't pretend like I'm not biased.  My strong dislike for Hillary combined with my fanboy crush on Obama leads to a perfect storm of bias.  So being objective is an impossibility for me.

That doesn't mean that the things that led me to those opinions on the candidates were objectively suspect though. I mean objectivity is impossible anyway, no matter what.  But I try to approach these things using a combination of heart and head, and my heart says Obama and my head says Obama.  I didn't dislike Hillary because she had the chutzpah to run against my candidate, by the way.  I have a long standing negative attitude towards her. 

Jordan .

Belladawna: that is interesting the "longstanding negative attitude towards her" though. are you sure it's not because of said "issues/problems" with her hubby's decisions in the white house that reflect on her campaign now?

I wouldn't answer FOR Herofix, but I strongly doubt his longstanding negative attitude towards Hillary has anything to do with the above.

I'd venture to say, if they were being completely truthful, most men find Hillary objectionable try though she may have to tone down the shrillness of her hectoring during these past several months. More than one man has commented that hers is the voice of the ex-wife you never wanted to hear again.  That's a problem without even considering policy issues, intellectual prowess or management ability.

Oh well, it's been a hoot so far and I'm hunkering down for the long drag-out "fight." Wasn't it just yesterday that Hillary bellowed something about getting up every morning to "FIGHT FOR YOU!" And we all know that throughout human history, be they on any side of the political spectrum, when a candidate tells you they want to take care of YOUR life, that's exactly what the end result will be once they're in office. Through it all, I still maintain the heavy lifting is done by every individual and not by their "fight-4-U" elected officials. Catchy campaign sloganeering though even if it getting stale.

Susan

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

I won't deny what Susan says, but there's more to it than that.  There are more rational reasons, not simply a visceral reaction.  Though people frequently - more frequently than they would like to admit - have the visceral reaction and then subconsciously find the rational reasons as a result.  I believe it's called 'rationalising', haha.

I can't really deny it in some respects.  I mean, I don't much like Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Gloria Steinem....hmm.  Does it say something about me or something about them?  Psycho-analyse away!  And I actually felt like the world was improved by Andrea Dworkin's passing.  That may sound harsh, but when did she ever give a damn how I felt?  She created the empathy gap in my mind, so that absolves me of some of my responsibility to empathise with her.

I feel like I should start composing a list of women I like and admire shortly, or else my honesty will make me look like a big jerk. 

susan,

that is why i was asking tis' all. thank you for that nice reply.
 

heehee ok but why do you not like hillary?!!?  no need to psycho-analyse but rationalise to me why? lol ;)

also, i don't believe that it's due to the x-wife nobody wants to hear from again syndrome. but i'll gladly hear all comments :) i still cannot wait for the "drag-out fight" too. interesting to say the least.

Oh, I find this terribly funny and ironic:

 http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/its-the-rocky-r.html

In a speech in Philadelphia today, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, compared herself to Philly icon Rocky Balboa.

"Well, could you imagine if Rocky Balboa had gotten half way up those Art Museum steps and said, 'Well, I guess that’s about far enough?'" Clinton asked.

"Let me tell you something, when it comes to finishing the fight, Rocky and I have a lot in common," she will tell the Pennsylvania A.F.L.-C.I.O. audience. "I never quit.  I never give up.  And neither do the American people."

Um….Senator? 

Rocky lost.

It was a split decision, but the judges (superdelegates?) awarded the fight to Rocky's black opponent, Apollo Creed.

ANNOUNCER: Judge Walker scores it eight-seven Creed... Judge Roseman scores it eight-seven Balboa. Judge Conners scores it nine-six Creed... Winner and still Heavyweight Champion of the World, Apollo Creed!

(As a Philadelphian, I am not going to get into Rockys II through 6.)

- jpt

The Republican National Committee reminds me that Sylvester Stallone has endorsed Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. Watch HERE.

Jordan .

Speaking of bad analogies....how about a really poor April Fool's joke....

Jordan .