lol, whats a Ginny?

Over here that is slang for a homosexual!

HA !! Over here  ginny ( the "g" is hard ), wop, dago all means Italian.   at least around NY. 

I think when Giuliani had wife trouble back in the nineties he moved in with some gay guys, or in their building or something like that. Giuliani is for gun control. Erwin , I have a side by side double barrel 12 guage shotgun-my father RIP gave it to me . It is a beauty. ( it is regulation length-not sawed off).

Party affiliation be damned, this guy keeps winning my heart! Yesterday while at Costco I looked through the 3rd of the Barack Obama books the store has carried over the past year. This one is more of a glorified magazine, soft cover with lots of photos. Several photographs include Obama with prominent Republicans but one was with his wife, his two little girls and ... Vice President Cheney. The caption said something about one daughter shaking VP Cheney's hand while the other high-fived him. Nothing snarky. Just sweet. I don't care what he REALLY thinks of Cheney, it was a breath of fresh non-partisan air and I appreciated breathing it in.

Then last week some of the Democrats became all snooty and lathered up over the Fox News Roger Ailes flap. When I first heard about it, it was an offended Democrat saying that Ailes had called Obama "Osama" and so now the Dems would have to call off their upcoming FOX tv coverage of the presidential candidates debate. In all good conscience they just couldn't be a part of such an outrage, as unsurprising as it was coming from the Evil Network viewed by a scant however many hundreds of thousands Americans. Hmpf. No way. Principles matter.

Later I heard the actual comment which one might be more likely to hear coming from Senator Kerry followed by an apology for a botched joke.

Obama did what I hoped he would do. What I'd have advised him to do if I were advising Senator Obama. He said he wasn't offended. Class act. And you know what? I'll bet Bush wasn't particularly offended by the joke either since the joke was actually on him.

Boy, I'll tell you, so weary am I of the immaturity, that any candidate, news outlet, media person, or politico who actually behaves like an adult through the upcoming election year is going to have my undying allegiance.

Susan

AP Interview: Obama doesn't take 'great offense' over word play

The Associated Press

Sunday, March 11, 2007

DAVENPORT, Iowa: Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday he was not greatly offended by the Fox News chief's word play about his name that led Nevada Democrats to cancel a presidential debate hosted with the network.

Fox's Roger Ailes made a remark last week about the similarities between the Illinois senator's name and al-Qaida leader Osama Bin Laden.

"I didn't take great offense at the joke," Obama said in an Associated Press interview while campaigning in Iowa. "I have been called worse."

At a Radio & Television News Directors Association Foundation event in Washington on Thursday, Ailes said, "And it is true that Barack Obama is on the move. I don't know if it's true that President (George W.) Bush called (Pakistani President Pervez) Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?"' according to a transcript provided by Fox.

Bin Laden is believed to be hiding in Afghanistan or the country's lawless border region with Pakistan.

The Nevada Democratic Party announced Friday it had canceled an August debate, to be co-hosted by Fox News Channel, and cited Ailes' comment.

Ailes went too far, the state's Democratic Party chairman, Tom Collins, and Democratic Sen. Harry Reid, wrote Fox News. "We cannot, as good Democrats, put our party in a position to defend such comments."

Nevada Democrats already were under criticism by MoveOn.org Civic Action, a network of liberal activists, for the partnership with Fox, which the group called "a mouthpiece for the Republican party."

In response, Fox News vice president David Rhodes said, "News organizations will want to think twice before getting involved in the Nevada Democratic caucus which appears to be controlled by radical, fringe, out-of-state interest groups."

In the AP interview at a coffee shop on the second day of a weekend visit to Iowa, Obama said he has been surprised at how quickly the intensity of the presidential race has picked up. He brushed aside media reports on issues from stock trades to parking tickets.

"You know it's to be expected," Obama said. "I was surprised that my parking tickets from 20 years ago got so much attention. But this is part of the vetting process when you're running for the most powerful position on earth, and it's to be expected that things get magnified."

Obama said he was confident he would withstand scrutiny.

"Fortunately, I feel very comfortable about how I've conducted my life, and I think I will survive the vetting process with flying colors," he said.

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

Susan, I'm going to stun you by agreeing that the joke is being overblown by the Democratic Party in order to score cheap political points.  It's just that I don't see that as a negative, since politics is degraded to the degree that scoring cheap political points is pretty much all it's about anymore.  So this particular play. coming as it does from my preferred team, gets a thumbs-up from me.  It's effective, and the optics of it are pretty much unimpeachable.

(Mmm.  Don't care much for the sound of that word.  Unimpeachable. ) 

I'm not at all stunned, Jamie.  I think you and I agree on a lot of things.  I'm still hopeful that Obama may rise above the fray and set a new tone.  Even more so, I  hope his campaign manager, David Plouffe (ohmygawd, whadda name!) is on the same page. 

But who's your team?  I know you mean the Democrats but that is a diverse (a word you probably do like) group.  Are you a Hillary man?  Kucinich?  Gore???  Or are you with me, a charter member of Obama for America?

Susan 

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

I like Kucinich as an idea man; it's a shame the optics aren't with him. I want to like Gore, but I can't. I like Hillary because I think she can win and hold two terms, and be tough doing it -- the White House doesn't need anyone squishy right now. Obama is great, but I still think it's too early in his career. I won't be surprised at a Clinton/Obama ticket, even if it doesn't look likely at the moment, and that would win regardless of who the Republicans come up with.

Do I need to add my usual disclaimer that I'm nearly always wrong when I make political predictions?

After serious consideration (read: a snap decision based on gut intuition), Obama is my man.

If I had to explain why, it would boil down to...

A) I wouldn't piss on Hillary Clinton if she was on fire.  If she were the principal of a local elementary school I would picket it.

B) Who else is there?

C) I like the cut of his jib.

Alright, Andrew! We're on the same team! I think it's time for you to get your American self back here so you and I can link arms and Rock the Vote 2008!

Just this morning I thought about writing an email to Obama. A recipe to win by expanding outside of the base,  a necessity for anyone expecting to be elected POTUS. Keep doing what you are doing. Ignore the pettiness that involves other politicians in the News Spurt Du Jour (i.e. FoxNews debate) where others feel the need to regard such silliness with gravitas. Remain the adult and, with your other talents, 9/10th of the battle to the nomination is over.

I don't care about any of the proposals Obama or any other candidate comes up with. The job has a life of its own and circumstances determine what's going to dominate the agenda. So Obama was against going into Iraq from the get-go. How he handles this situation when/if he is in office -- a problem that is unsolvable in the short term and whose ramifications will outlast many presidencies to come -- will be a real test of not just Obama and his administration, but of the American people. All of those who have spent the Bush years denigrating his every move can now release the steel wound coils of their angst.  What will Obama do? How will America and the world regard a President Obama?  And how long will the honeymoon last?   

I'm as serious as... lung cancer and I mean every word I wrote.  I wish him well and I hope he wins.  I've been registered on Obama for America as soon as he made his formal announcement to run.   is how he signs his emails to me.  (and however many other thousands of supporters)

Susan 

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

I would support and vote for Giulianni for president. Man he cleaned up NYC, rankled some feathers along the way -but truelly improved the city. I saw it happen.

I would like to see the Dems nominate Obama, let's face it, they may well win and he is the choice I would make at a caucus etc. were i a Dem caucusator. He is different from the other hate fuelled, worn out, been there done that field. One America says Obama, not two Mr. guy with the Breck hair and humongous estate in Carolina. Wagon chasing, Dr. suing opportunist. Oh and nice southern accent last week Hillary-you phony. 

In either case a good deal of continuous rancor would be dissapated and although I always support my President -whoever he or she is, It would be cool to actually have some enthusiasm for the President- either one of the two i mentioned favorably here. 

What the heck is happening here, are we all turning moderate?

From afar I can also say that both Obama and Rudy are people I think I could respect and they are my most favored from each party.

"We cannot allow a mine shaft gap"

Now if we can just get some hasty legislation to make Canada the 51st state, all our dreams may come true.

Susan 

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

 The moment I saw that, I think I came the nearest to dying I ever have, as my blood pressure immediately shot through the roof.

Rumsfield has more class.  Yeah, I said it! 

I am seriously on an 'Anyone But Hillary' ticket.  Or Newt (is he even running?)

Careful there, Susan -- are you sure you want to spend the rest of your life looking at this?

It's kinda hypnotic, Jamie.  What is it?  If you stare at it long enough does a maple leaf appear? 

Susan 

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

Awaiting announcement from Elizabeth and John Edwards. Rumors flying. Health issues for Elizabeth may be altering John Edward's run for the presidency.

UPDATE:  Metastatic Stage IV cancer in a right rib bone.  

But... the campaign continues.  Elizabeth is a strong woman.  I wish her and her family the best.   

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at  the
Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked,  "What
are all those clocks?"

St. Peter answered, "Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a
Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move."
"Oh," said the man, "whose clock is that?"

"That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never moved, indicating
That she never told a lie."
"Incredible," said the man. "And whose clock is that one?"

St. Peter responded, "That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands
have moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire
Life."

"Where's Hillary Clinton's clock?" asked the man.
"Hillary's clock is in Jesus' office. He's using it as a ceiling fan."

I read an article by Dick Morris-yes he is a slippery character himself , but he knows alot.

Hillary's negatives are rising at 52 ( if you buy into polls ) with Obama gaining. Obama is a liberal, but his character is so refreshing. Warning, he has been saying some things recently that don't sound too good. Get back on track O. Be real, think what you say.

Note : I am for Giuliani, but if the Dems win O would spare us from Hillary, Gore, and $400 haircut Edwards and his 2 Americas.

Not much of a post, just giving the thread a bump really.

Not sure if this is anything just yet, but Fred Thompson's name keeps popping up here and there over hte past few weeks.

I think many higher-ups in the GOP are pushing for a more Reagan-istic candidate for 08 -- which doesn't include ANY of the current candidates.

here's a new story from today about Thompson: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/29/wus29.xml

The thing is that he doesn't "look" like a President to me - esp in the picture in the article...but then I guess no one does until they get sworn in - and even then - who knows... :)

Jordan .

Yesterday I read about Giuliani standing up (a little bit) to the social-conservative faction of the Republicans by saying the party-at-large had to get over itself on the pro-life, anti-gay stuff.  I thought, well, that showed a good intuition.

Today I read this, and I'm wondering if yesterday was just an accident on that "intuition" thing. 

I don't think the traditional party platforms are going to play out this year.  I believe (and hope) that when the election results are in for 2008, pundits will ask cite the wisdom (or lack) of the candidate who recognized that reality and who was smart enough to hone in on the real American zeitgeist.  The one that MOST Americans share in spite of our differences.  I'm not identifying it.  I'm just saying.  And you know how I feel about the tedious drumbeat of year after year abortion-gun-abortion-gun political rat a tat tats. but I think there will be countless articles done discussing what with wrong with those candidates who relied on the old storylines.

Giuliani has good instincts.  So does Barack Obama.  Which is why they are my two fave picks.  Still. If they get the noms. Inshallah.

Susan 

     
“Half a truth is often a great lie.”

Ben Franklin

So it's official even by Rasmussen now, Bush is at his lowest ever and it's no wonder people are scrambling to be different:

_______________________________

Tuesday, May 22, 2007

After three straight days at the lowest level ever recorded by Rasmussen Reports, President Bush’s Job Approval ratings slipped another point to another new low on Tuesday.

Just 33% of American adults now Approve of the way that George W. Bush is performing his duties as President. Prior to this past week, the President’s ratings had never slipped below 35% and had only reached that level for a day or two at a time. Now, his Job Approval has been at the 35% level or below for six straight days. (see comments on comparing Approval Ratings from different polling firms). Rasmussen Reports updates the President’s Job Approval ratings every day by noon Eastern.

The President’s ratings tumble each time immigration reform dominates the news because he loses support among his base—just 66% of Republicans now give him their approval (that matches the lowest level of support he’s ever received from his base). Even as the stock markets set new records, just 36% of investors approve of the President’s performance.

Only 14% of Americans now Strongly Approve of the way Bush is handling his duties. Forty-eight percent (48%) Strongly Disapprove (that is the highest level ever measured). Early in the second term, the number who Strongly Approved was essentially even with the number who Strongly Disapproved.

While immigration is the issue pushing the President’s ratings to new lows, Iraq has been a steady drag on the President’s ratings. Most Americans believe that history will judge the mission in Iraq to be a failure.

_____________________________________

So we keep seeing Rep's try to be Reagan or anything else that is different than Bush.  And the Dem's who should be able to look good in this light aren't looking so darned good themselves and they keep scrambling as well.  All in all it adds up to fun election watching for those of us who enjoy seeing how the game plays out!

"We cannot allow a mine shaft gap"

This might be a little too much, even for our group...

A Channel to Cover Presidential Election 2008 Starts on XM

By Brad Kava
Monday, May 21st, 2007 at 9:54 am in Brad Kava, Radio, General.

Some early start on this 08 election. Anyway here is an article that shows that advocate for the poor Edwards has some problematic headlines recently. He breaks college budgets, profits handsomely from hedge funds that he has been critical of and a couple $400 haircuts.  

Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Wednesday, May 23, 2007